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1. If God did not wanted them to have knowledge why He put the tree of science in there? 2. If God did not wanted them to have eternal life why He put the tree of life in there?
You have misunderstood the literature of the Hebrews. There is a lot of other literature just as important as the Hebrew Tanakh that does give your questions the answers.
The Gan Eden was not of this world nor were the man and woman of this world. They were celestial creatures who existed from the garden and the tree of life.
TextI have not misunderstood anything. My questions were directed in a way to incite the debate about that issue in particular and probably is a matter of another thread. (most of my premises may be that way) I'm well aware of the Hebrew literature and it's complexities.
The really interesting thing here is; The tree of life was already there and the tree of science was already there, so. 1. If God did not wanted them to have knowledge why He put the tree of science in there? 2. If God did not wanted them to have eternal life why He put the tree of life in there? So the snake was not that wise, I would have said to them eat from the tree of life first and then eat from the tree of science. (Something is happening here, hmmm) Need to investigate a bit more.
Was the serpent a snake or a beast?
The world was good and without sin when Adam was formed. That means that the earth was pure and was celestial till it too was cursed and became terrestrial.
They were thrown out for being disobedient.
Adam was to toil and Eve to suffer childbirth. Basically the pains of life outside the Garden.
As to the Tree of Life, not sure anyone has explained that. I could be wrong but God put the 120 yrs limit on people anyway.
originally posted by: Abednego
First of all I'm not really sure if this is the right forum for this topic, it could be philosophy too I guess.
During the weekend I was watching the movie The Truman Show, and suddenly I was transported to the garden of Eden. This "isolated" area were the 2 humans were living the perfect life. No problems, no hassles, no worries.
And then questions started to come to their minds like, what is in the other side of the "fence"? or simply has the urge to do something else than just be there.
And then they talk with God right there at the door.
What if, if instead of them been thrown out, they were the ones that decided to go out.
What do think guys?
Adam and Eve were perfectly happy in the garden of Eden.
Why would they risk going into the unknown?
Why would god allow them to leave Eden for no apparent reason?
Also, Earth wasn't a cursed land at that time. Earth may not be a place for Adam and Eve to live.
originally posted by: EasternShadow
a reply to: Abednego
If Adam and Eve leave on their own free will, a lot of things could have change.
1. Men will no longer have "Adam's Apple" and Women's breast will no longer grow larger.
2. Women will not suffer childbirth's pain.
3. We could no longer know good and evil.
4. There will be no "first sin", therefore Jesus may likely doesn't exist to save human. Since Jesus doesn't exist, so do christian. No christian, mean no crusade. Pagan world would likely be conquered by Moslems and Islam become the largest religion today.
5. No christian, mean a lot of technology based on Bible do not exist, for example astronomy. Arabs may have advance astronomy but without christian intellects, they couldn't go far. We may not experience enlightened age.
I'm not sure it would be in god's best interest to let Adam and Eve leave the garden of Eden out of their free will. Remember, god is omniscient. Everything happen today is within god's knowledge. Perhaps it would be best not to change what is meant to be fate.
originally posted by: Abednego
But what if all those things came because they decided to leave?
If God is omniscient, then why He put the tree in there if he knew there was a possibility of them eating?
(This is just speculation, but make you wonder)