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Rush Limbaugh : Agree to amnesty if it comes with no voting rights for 15-25 years. Any takers?

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posted on Feb, 18 2018 @ 08:05 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth

That's blatantly unconstitutional and would be stricken down on the first legal challenge




posted on Feb, 18 2018 @ 08:06 PM
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originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: UKTruth

But the issue would be that our constitution gives the right to vote to all citizens. So they couldn't be classified as such unless we amend the constitution.

Remember these people after becoming citizens will be working and paying taxes.

How would you fill if you paid taxes but were denied the right to vote for 25 years?

I was denied the right for 17 . Your point ?



posted on Feb, 18 2018 @ 08:07 PM
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originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: UKTruth

But the issue would be that our constitution gives the right to vote to all citizens. So they couldn't be classified as such unless we amend the constitution.

Remember these people after becoming citizens will be working and paying taxes.

How would you fill if you paid taxes but were denied the right to vote for 25 years?


With Mexico being what it is, many are in the same boat. Yet some go the legal route to become a citizen.

I just wonder why there's a double standard when it comes to US immigration compared to that of Canada, for example.



posted on Feb, 18 2018 @ 08:09 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: UKTruth

That's blatantly unconstitutional and would be stricken down on the first legal challenge


So we just let the system continue to get gamed?

Someone in Mexico has a pregnancy due date in three weeks. They'll make sure to cross the border in two and a half.



posted on Feb, 18 2018 @ 08:11 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: neo96



So what do people think?


The left will never go for it.

They are enthralled with the idea of instant voters, and those illegal immigrants will be so grateful the left will have their votes locked for the next 50 years.

It's not about them, anyone thinks it is?

Delusional.


I think you are right, which is what Limbaugh is really saying too, I believe.


Correct. Part of Limbaugh's schtik is to point out the absurd with absurdity.



posted on Feb, 18 2018 @ 08:26 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Ursushorribilis
a reply to: UKTruth

It's sad that people's livelihood have come down to Republican/democrats bickering.

And yes i can see liberals just wanting votes.
However, there are a lot of people who want amnesty for themselves, their family. Having nothing to do with politics.



Amnesty is just a word. What law-abiding illegals want, I would guess, is the removal of the fear of deportation, to be able to work freely without fear of being caught, and a future as American citizens for themselves and their kids and grandkids.



Ummm...did you just say...”law abiding illegals”...?




YouSir



posted on Feb, 18 2018 @ 08:44 PM
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originally posted by: Ursushorribilis

originally posted by: Aallanon
a reply to: underwerks

they are NOT Americans

Neither is anyone in the US. Except native Americans.



Ummm...Silly ole bear...every one born within or naturalized into the continents of America are Americans...

Those born or naturalized within the continent of North America are North Americans...

Those born within the borders of the United States are not just North Americans...they are also Native Americans of the northern variety...

What they are not is...aboriginals...that term is reserved for the original inhabitants of these land masses and their descendants...that’s why it’s not grammatically correct to label the descendants of the original settlers as Native Americans in order to distinguish them from other Native Americans...who are not descendants of the original settlers...or aboriginals...





YouSir



posted on Feb, 18 2018 @ 08:46 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Are they citizens? Then yes, they immediately, as in instantly, have the right to vote. No waiting period, certainly not 15 years.

Utter stupidity. Doesn't matter a whit how they got the citizenship. Once it's theirs, all the rights and responsibilities inherent with that, begin.



posted on Feb, 18 2018 @ 09:04 PM
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a reply to: Wardaddy454

My understanding is they cant vote neither can their infant until another couple of decades.


Well then Trump's wall can come in the picture.

Unless she can toss the infant over the wall



posted on Feb, 18 2018 @ 09:08 PM
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originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: UKTruth

Are they citizens? Then yes, they immediately, as in instantly, have the right to vote. No waiting period, certainly not 15 years.

Utter stupidity. Doesn't matter a whit how they got the citizenship. Once it's theirs, all the rights and responsibilities inherent with that, begin.



Ummm...that’s why you give them a...path..to citizenship...say...15 to 25 years...and once they become citizens after that time period...then and only then they get to vote...




YouSir
edit on 18-2-2018 by YouSir because: Of the y’s



posted on Feb, 18 2018 @ 09:36 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth
Limbaugh was talking on Fox News Sunday and came up with the idea that he would support an amnesty bill if it meant that illegal immigrants, who were given citizenship, could not vote for 15-25 years.

I think this is a great idea. It is humane, something all democrats will love, and removes the excuse from the Republicans that this is all about votes.

So what do people think? It's certainly one way to find out if the Democrats REALLY care and also if the Republicans are REALLY only concerned about this being a voting issue.

www.washingtonexaminer.com... 49418

Limbaugh seems to think that not a single Democrat would vote for it.


Everyone knows Democrat leadership only cares about illegals because they view them as a block of votes. Limbaugh is right. None of them would vote for it. They'll spin it, but anyone with two brain cells know what the end game is with Democrats and illegals.



posted on Feb, 18 2018 @ 09:39 PM
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Pffffft. Voting is such a sham anymore. No big deal. Our votes don't matter anyway.



posted on Feb, 18 2018 @ 09:41 PM
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originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: UKTruth

I will never understand way americans don't want to share their freedom.

15-25 years is much to harsh for a group of people who are just trying to be free.
I would be ok with 5-7 years. But only if they work and pay taxes within that time.

Personally I would trade any random 10 mexicans for rush any day.
Rush is just a # started , always has been. He starts problems for ratings. Lowest of the low if you ask me.



Ummm, 5 to 7 years is the time frame for a regular immigrant who comes in legally.

These are people who broke the law to come here. They should be penalized for having done that one way or another. If we are being told they *have* to have legal status to stay, then they shouldn't be given full citizenship for a much longer period of time.



posted on Feb, 18 2018 @ 09:59 PM
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originally posted by: subfab
a reply to: UKTruth

the popular vote doesn't matter in presidential elections so why would it matter if they vote or not?


Well it does and it doesnt. For the state to choose their electors it matters and the electors choosing the president it matters, but we have a third step in between that assigns electors in a way that doesnt match the popular votes.



posted on Feb, 18 2018 @ 10:08 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

It's called a green card. Most would be cool with it. As you pointed out, it's what they would be getting anyway and then they would have to wait 5 years to be able to apply for citizenship.

Most probably wouldn't care if they were made to wait longer.



posted on Feb, 18 2018 @ 10:15 PM
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a reply to: daskakik

Except, it's not at all about what they would be cool with. It's about what the ones changing the law would be cool with, and in this case, they wouldn't be cool with a huge pool of people who wouldn't be allowed to vote for a very, very long time.

And that is the whole point of the exercise.

If those people can't vote, then the very people who say that need the laws changed to allow them in aren't willing to accept a compromise that would do it. So they don't care about the people only their votes.



posted on Feb, 18 2018 @ 10:18 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

They couldn't vote for 5 years anyway and then there are people who might not bother filing the paperwork to become a citizen for years after they are eligible.



posted on Feb, 18 2018 @ 10:36 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Dems won't vote for this. It's all about the votes for them.

dailycaller.com...



posted on Feb, 18 2018 @ 11:08 PM
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originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: nwtrucker

But it should be. The poor of the world deserve our help.



Okay well you shovel out all your hard earned dough first. We've got enough poor here, we're all getting poorer, and the rich get richer by skewing the entire system in their favor and get away with it because liberals just have to have that border WIDE OPEN in every regard (even the trucks running the drugs) thus keeping the entire world drugs pipelined into our mainline thus maintaining global warfarism (as drugs can be found at the heart of essentially every war; the 'terrorist' groups are largely drug cartels now). So everyone fights about the border (as if for the elites it has anything to do with altruism), and then all the other problems that dovetail from it, they pit everyone against each other and they keep scootin on by.



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