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originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: soberbacchus
originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: network dude
However Trump is clearly making a connection between the shootings and the investigation. Frankly not sure how anyone can deny or defend that.
Stick around and you will see some shameless mental gymnastics explaining how you can not understand the written word.
A little like that experiment/game where a crowd of people pretend to see something in the sky and then ask a stranger if they can see it and they finally end up saying they can?
Kinda like that, but less fun and with a-holes.
I am genuinely baffled how anyone who understands written english can not think he is blaming the FBI failure on the Russia investigation.
At work, if I had a number of important deliverables and some unimportant ones, if I went to report to the big boss and told him I had missed my important targets but hit all the unimportant ones, his or her response would be "stop wasting your time on that cr** and focus on what is important'. The response would not imply directly that missed my important targets because of the unimportant cr** I was doing, rather a direction to put all efforts into the important stuff because I obviously needed to work harder at it.
That is what Trump's tweet is about - which any normal human being can understand.
Do you understand that the FBI is not a single person and at any one time will be conducting thousands of investigations?
Attempting to blame the faliure to take action on the Florida shooter on the the Russia investigation is beyond stupid.
... regardless of how many people they have, they do not have enough focusing on the important issues because 17 people died when they had an opportunity to stop it. So, drop the cr** and put more resources into the big deliverables.
You are saying that the FBI did all they could because they have a lot of people - or couldn't do any more, Yet the FBI themselves say they dropped the ball.
Yep they got it wrong. In this case with spectacularly bad consequences. If you want me to agree that the FBI should have more resources to investigate gun threats I absolutely do.
Still no connection to the Russia investigation.
Well, there is a connection - If the hundreds of FBI agents working for Mueller had been working on following up leads to protect kids lives at school, then it MIGHT have made a difference. Note the word MIGHT. It is perfectly reasonable the top guy to question his subordinates use of resource when they fail at an important task and labour with no results on another unimportant task. That challenge does not in any way state that they failed BECAUSE of the Russia investigation, which is why the OP is a lie.
What % of FBI resources should be spent on investigating gun threats?
Clealry not enough - which is precisely the answer you would get from a leader when you tried to excuse your major failures with the other stuff you are doing.
I agree not enough. What else do you want them to stop investigating? Or is the Russia investigation special somehow?
The Russia investigation has yielded nothing of importance and taken an inordinate amount of time and effort, especially in the leadership, so it's an obvious example of where resources are not being effectively used. I have no doubt that there are several other areas of incompetence running through the FBI, especially the leadership.
It's an obvious example because it potentially paints Trump in a negative light.
originally posted by: underwerks
I think it's wrong and distasteful for the president to use a tragedy like this to continue his attacks on the FBI.
Look, we get you have to attack the people investigating you every chance you get. But it's a total scumbag move to imply the shooting happened because the FBI was too busy investigating you.
originally posted by: Mandroid7
a reply to: UKTruth
I am broke, rich people are evil, I don't want to work harder, everyone should suffer too.
Can I manipulate enough peoples emotions that it will all implode society and level the playing field so I can be equal without having to actually add value to the plant?
But wherever you would ascend with me, O my brothers, take care lest a parasite ascend with you!
A parasite: that is a reptile, a creeping, cringing reptile, that tries to fatten on your infirm and sore places.
And this is its art: it divines where ascending souls are weary, in your trouble and dejection, in your sensitive modesty, does it build its loathsome nest.
Where the strong are weak, where the noble are all-too-gentle - there builds it its loathsome nest; the parasite lives where the great have small sore-places.
What is the highest of all species of being, and what is the lowest? The parasite is the lowest species; he, however, who is of the highest species
feeds most parasites.
For the soul which has the longest ladder, and can go deepest down: how could there fail to be most parasites upon it?-
-The most comprehensive soul, which can run and stray and rove furthest in itself; the most necessary soul, which out of joy flings itself into
chance:-
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: DJMSN
a reply to: ScepticScot
Shows what you know which is only how to warp and distort peoples words and meanings. You are diametrically opposed to Trump which is fine but no need to outright lie as he is pretty good at point his own thumb in his mouth.
You need to read about Bernie Madoff's ponzi scheme and how many people killed themselves over fraud. Fraud, by the way that had been brought to federal authorities including the FBI's attention but they turned a blind eye then as well...but fraud has killed bunches.
So the FBI shouldn't spend 100 % of its resources on gun threats? Almost like that was the point I was making. .
originally posted by: soberbacchus
originally posted by: starviego
Trump is absolutely right. Heads should roll at the FBI.
So you believe this happened because the FBI was spending too much time investigating Russia's involvement in the 2016 US election?
Just a sidenote: Independent Counsel Mueller is heading that investigation and their are 35,000 people that work at the FBI.
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: DJMSN
a reply to: ScepticScot
Shows what you know which is only how to warp and distort peoples words and meanings. You are diametrically opposed to Trump which is fine but no need to outright lie as he is pretty good at point his own thumb in his mouth.
You need to read about Bernie Madoff's ponzi scheme and how many people killed themselves over fraud. Fraud, by the way that had been brought to federal authorities including the FBI's attention but they turned a blind eye then as well...but fraud has killed bunches.
So the FBI shouldn't spend 100 % of its resources on gun threats? Almost like that was the point I was making. .
Who said anything about 100% of their resource? The arguments you do actually try to make, when you are not spitting hatred towards the President, are falling to pieces.
originally posted by: Mandroid7
This thread should be hoax binned.
He never said what you claimed, and you are lying.
originally posted by: Mandroid7
I don't see how anyone can even open their mouths about Trump when Obama actually helped lay the groundwork that could destabilize the entire planet.
originally posted by: odzeandennz
a reply to: soberbacchus
can you name one time where as the leader of the country, Trump took responsibility for anything, or said, such and such happened under my watch, and as the one at the helm of the country, he didn't blame others.?
originally posted by: Ursushorribilis
The FBI employs 35000 people. And they couldn't stop 1 shooter? Shows their level of competence.
originally posted by: RickinVa
Somehow, I get the impression that the OP doesn't like the president.
That's about it.
originally posted by: Ursushorribilis
originally posted by: RickinVa
Somehow, I get the impression that the OP doesn't like the president.
That's about it.
He more than hates Trump. He loves Hillary. The words sore loser comes to mind