posted on Feb, 17 2005 @ 03:14 PM
Originally posted by celticniall
I like reading your posts as you seem learned on the subject of ancient civilisations. However I must disagree with you.
Is it not true (I forget where I heard this) that Plato heard the story of Atlantis from a Greek traveller who was told the story by an Egyptian
Solon. The "tale told by a traveler" is a popular literary device. We don't know one way or another whether Solon really existed -- but we do
know that Atlantis doesn't show up in the writings of any other civilization
(g) (Chakotay and I will politely disagree on this. Love the conversations, though.)
If Atlantis dissapeared beneath the sea, would not all traces lie at the bottom of the Atlantic
It's supposed to have been a great trading civilization. We can trace patterns of trade by the goods that show up (and are imitated) in other
places. Among the North American Indians, we see patterns of trade that stretch from the northernmost headwaters of the Mississippi all the way into
central and southern Texas.
Tin from Great Britain shows up in the Middle East... and so forth.
There's some ambiguous stuff (there's a few sites that may be Nordic runes in North America) but that would have been a farily minor route for the
Norse involved. When a major trade route is involved, you have lots of goods flowing between the countries.
However the traces we do see of the survivors knowledge and influence are scattered throughout the world.
I haven't studied diasporas and their stories that extensively, so I don't know. However, I don't think this will hold up since it's supposed to
be an "advanced civilization" and we don't see any extraordinarly advanced older civilizations (like ...ah... going from aborigine to People Using
Computers in the space of 300 years.)
The pyramidal structures in S. America, Egypt, Far East, for example, along with similar legends, beliefs, mathematical knowledge, similar
level of understanding of the cosmos, etc.
Well, the pyramid is a pretty easy shape to do. One almost global convention is that houses have 4 walls (a basic box structure) and this really
isn't a "shared global knowledge"... it's just the easiest thing to construct after you learn to make brick and find out that the way you made
tent houses won't work for brick houses.
There aren't many similar Really Old legends. More modern ones (300 BC and onward) may show similarities, but that's because of cultural
Mathematical knowledge... well... Hindus had some wonderful mathematical philosophy that was on par with the Greeks and Babylonians, but the
Babylonians went heavily into engineering formulas and the Greeks developed symbolic mathematics -- a real mish-mash of knowledge that's interesting
and exciting, but not derived from some common origin as far as I can tell.