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originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: Teikiatsu
I don't need any "Boogie Man" Neo-Nazo and Neo-fascist groups are just enforcers of their ideology, as long as that ideology remains there will always be people who adhere to it in some compacity
originally posted by: elysiumfire
slapjacks:
Guns don't kill people.
Er, yes they do! Guns kill people, they do it without any possibility to an emotional appeal or having any form of mental aberration. They kill without prejudice. The argument that it requires a human finger to pull the trigger is irrelevant, because guns are made specifically for one reason, to ease the act of killing.
So, in reality, the saying that it takes two to tango, is superbly epitomised by a gun rampage. The gun needs the mass shooter, the mass shooter needs the gun. It is easier and more beneficial in the long run to remove the gun, than it is to cure the mental illness.
How do you cure someone of an addiction, you remove the cause of the addiction.
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
Hypothetical situation. You are about to be locked in one of two rooms for 24 hours, your choice of which one. You will have food, water, shelter, etc. Heck, TV and internet. All the creature comforts.
The difference between these two rooms:
#1 has a loaded gun sitting on the floor.
#2 has a convicted murderer sitting on the floor.
Whichever one you go into, you will be completely unarmed, defenseless.
Which room do you choose?
originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: Teikiatsu
No one ever said there wouldn't be, as I stated, as long as the Ideology exist, there will be people who enforce it
and as to your failed attempt at equating Antifa and Nazi's
"Antifa" is not attempting to install an 'ethnostate' or dominate based on Racial or Religious "supremacy", "Antifa" is not a political movement or party, there is no Racial or "supremacists" ideology behind it, Antifascist Aktion was created as a way for people to "unite" to fight and defend against fascism,
talk about needing a boogieman, you all seem obsessed with Antifa
originally posted by: Porquenolosdos
originally posted by: slapjacks
Guns don't kill people.
So you won't mind if I hold a loaded gun to your head, and pull the trigger?
originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: Logarock
"Fascism" is not just Racial supremacy, although that is the only thing people bring up, "fascism" is also anti-anarchy, so as an anarchist I could argue that all forms of State and government are in fact "fascist"
also, neo-fascism and post-fascism
"Neo-fascism is a post–World War II ideology that includes significant elements of fascism. Neo-fascism usually includes ultranationalism, populism, anti-immigration policies or, where relevant, nativism, anti-communism, anti-socialism, anti-Marxism, anti-anarchism and opposition to the parliamentary system and liberal democracy. Allegations that a group is neo-fascist may be hotly contested, especially if the term is used as a political epithet. Some post–World War II regimes have been described as neo-fascist due to their authoritarian nature, and sometimes due to their fascination with and sympathy towards fascist ideology and rituals.
Post-fascism is a label that has been applied to several European political parties that espouse a modified form of fascism and which partake in constitutional politics"
but, individual "fascists" or people who enforce or believe in "fascist" ideology, do exist, just because they are not the controlling political power, or a majority of numbers, and just because where you live you don't view it, doesn't mean they don't exist
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: elysiumfire
slapjacks:
Guns don't kill people.
Er, yes they do! Guns kill people, they do it without any possibility to an emotional appeal or having any form of mental aberration. They kill without prejudice. The argument that it requires a human finger to pull the trigger is irrelevant, because guns are made specifically for one reason, to ease the act of killing.
So, in reality, the saying that it takes two to tango, is superbly epitomised by a gun rampage. The gun needs the mass shooter, the mass shooter needs the gun. It is easier and more beneficial in the long run to remove the gun, than it is to cure the mental illness.
How do you cure someone of an addiction, you remove the cause of the addiction.
Hypothetical situation. You are about to be locked in one of two rooms for 24 hours, your choice of which one. You will have food, water, shelter, etc. Heck, TV and internet. All the creature comforts.
The difference between these two rooms:
#1 has a loaded gun sitting on the floor.
#2 has a convicted murderer sitting on the floor.
Whichever one you go into, you will be completely unarmed, defenseless.
Which room do you choose?
originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: soundguy
Not only was your white nationalist angle proved incorrect, but your anti-white fear mongering is false also.
Illegal immigrants have killed over 25,000 americans (according to GAO data), all of the mass murders since columbine add up to about 900 deaths (according to mother jone's data).
NOTE: some of those mass shootings were committed by minorities.