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originally posted by: Xcathdra
originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: CharlesT
Just like locks on doors, laws are only for honest people. Locks don't stop burglars and more laws won't stop criminals.
Let's just get rid of laws. Make murder legal. Make rape legal. Why not.
Laws don't stop them, so let's get rid of the laws that don't prevent.
Laws are present to deal with people who violate the social norms. The punishment for breaking those laws is suppose to be the deterrent. The point is laws dont matter to a person who has decided to ignore them and those laws dont matter to a person who is faced with an active shooter.
originally posted by: Harpua
originally posted by: Xcathdra
originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: CharlesT
Just like locks on doors, laws are only for honest people. Locks don't stop burglars and more laws won't stop criminals.
Let's just get rid of laws. Make murder legal. Make rape legal. Why not.
Laws don't stop them, so let's get rid of the laws that don't prevent.
Laws are present to deal with people who violate the social norms. The punishment for breaking those laws is suppose to be the deterrent. The point is laws dont matter to a person who has decided to ignore them and those laws dont matter to a person who is faced with an active shooter.
We don't need seatbelts or speed limits or dui laws or pilots licenses or material safety data sheets or etc et etc... whatever dude.
Laws are present to deal with people who violate the social norms. The punishment for breaking those laws is suppose to be the deterrent. The point is laws dont matter to a person who has decided to ignore them and those laws dont matter to a person who is faced with an active shooter.
What felony were you going to charge him with? Just make one up so he cant buy a gun? As for mental illness, that is a slippery slope.
originally posted by: MOMof3
I would rather keep my rifles and outlaw war weapons. I would rather the NRA become a extinct business. I would rather vote out all Republican Congress. They are letting people die and our children are targets.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Willtell
I gave a solution and you shat all over it because it didn't include a gun ban.
*flips Willtell the bird*
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Guyfriday
If you don't change the behavior, then the person will just use a different weapon.
People don't get that if you change the behavior, then that eliminates the shooting before it even starts!
Just denying a killer a weapon does not stop the person's mentality.
originally posted by: Willtell
You guys aren’t listening
Your hearing only what you want to hear.
You want an argument about guns and children are dying. F___ guns!
I’ll repeat for the last time what I’m trying to convey
If you don’t get it this time, so be it.
I'll go watch the Knicks.
My point is that the PTB are so dogmatic their side is right, nobody wants to compromise therefore nothing gets done to try to solve this terrible problem.
I’m not God, I don’t have a sure solution, I do have an opinion but would be willing to try intelligent means to deal with this issue outside of my solution.
Would you be willing to do the same thing?
originally posted by: Xcathdra
originally posted by: Harpua
originally posted by: Xcathdra
originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: CharlesT
Just like locks on doors, laws are only for honest people. Locks don't stop burglars and more laws won't stop criminals.
Let's just get rid of laws. Make murder legal. Make rape legal. Why not.
Laws don't stop them, so let's get rid of the laws that don't prevent.
Laws are present to deal with people who violate the social norms. The punishment for breaking those laws is suppose to be the deterrent. The point is laws dont matter to a person who has decided to ignore them and those laws dont matter to a person who is faced with an active shooter.
We don't need seatbelts or speed limits or dui laws or pilots licenses or material safety data sheets or etc et etc... whatever dude.
Wanna try that again and maybe make sense this time?
You guys aren’t listening
Your hearing only what you want to hear.
originally posted by: odzeandennz
so this country has gotten to the point where the only solution to deter gun violence is by having more guns...
is that the gist of 6 pages of discussion?