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Shooting reported at Florida high school

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posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 07:35 PM
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originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Soulece
What is the point of this weapon?


Generally the same as any other rifle, since it has the same mechanism as any other rifle. It's for hunting, self defense and/or competition. It's just black and look scary, but it works the same as a wooden-stocked semi-auto.


First off, no it does not work the same. Secondly, why is it needed for defense? Can't a handgun do just as much? Or is it because it can fire off more rounds in a short amount of time? Well you would only need that in what, a zombie invasion? Or, war. Hows it for hunting when something else that is less effective on paper can still do the same thing? Surely you cant need that gun to hunt. I mean heck, a bow and arrow is good enough for hunting. And why competition? Why does this matter?

So again, I ask you, what really do we need those type of guns for? At least access to the public?

..Competition, get outta here lol


Um, yes it does work the same as any other semi-auto rifle, whether it has a wooden stock or black composite stock. You're wrong. Any wooden-stocked semi-auto can be fitted with larger capacity mags. Even if the manufacturer doesn't make them, they're easy to get aftermarket and even if they were banned they're remarkably simple to build. They're literally just a box with a spring inside it.

They're for everything I said they're for. You may not like that answer because you have an agenda, but it's 100% true.




posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 07:35 PM
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a reply to: roadgravel

This is a scumbag who reportedly had threatened on multiple occasions to bring his guns to the school, amd was considered to be a threat. If no actual prosecutable crime was committed, this is still the kind of maggot who should be locked in a mental institution.

I think the biggest problem is we dont lock up psychopaths anymore until they've actually killed a bunch of people. Most of the time we just give them pills we hope they take, which allow them to blend into society better.

May his skin be peeled completely, and salt and lime juice be slowly drizzled over him, forever and ever, until he takes his last breath. Amen.



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 07:38 PM
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originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Soulece
What is the point of this weapon?


Generally the same as any other rifle, since it has the same mechanism as any other rifle. It's for hunting, self defense and/or competition. It's just black and look scary, but it works the same as a wooden-stocked semi-auto.


First off, no it does not work the same. Secondly, why is it needed for defense? Can't a handgun do just as much? Or is it because it can fire off more rounds in a short amount of time? Well you would only need that in what, a zombie invasion? Or, war. Hows it for hunting when something else that is less effective on paper can still do the same thing? Surely you cant need that gun to hunt. I mean heck, a bow and arrow is good enough for hunting. And why competition? Why does this matter?

So again, I ask you, what really do we need those type of guns for? At least access to the public?

..Competition, get outta here lol


Um, yes it does work the same as any other semi-auto rifle, whether it has a wooden stock or black composite stock. You're wrong. Any wooden-stocked semi-auto can be fitted with larger capacity mags. Even if the manufacturer doesn't make them, they're easy to get aftermarket and even if they were banned they're remarkably simple to build. They're literally just a box with a spring inside it.

They're for everything I said they're for. You may not like that answer because you have an agenda, but it's 100% true.


My agenda is limiting amounts of casualties. We can have guns. I do not see necessary fit for some of them. If there's deaths, I want the number to be as minimal as possible. Of course I'm not a law maker so this is just ideals. But that's my agenda.
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posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 07:38 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy




The Redneck actually made a pretty damned good observation about the inability of todays youths of coping with the societal stresses (that we all used to learn to deal with) without shooting anyone!


That certainly has a good portion to do with it.

Just today my little man (10yrs old) had his feelings hurt with his first girlfriend that he was involved with in a long relationship (2 weeks).

It was a real ugly situation that escalated rather quickly. He gave her a bear and candy for valentines and she wanted a hug. He was "whoa slow down" I don't do hugs with girls. She got upset and broke up with him and moved to another guy.

I told him that is normal and it happens to everyone including good old dad. However, the important part is learning to cope with his emotions and knowing it wont be the last time and its likely to occur in the future where things don't work out as planned. More importantly , now he can go after her girlfriends that like him
. Then I asked for the Fathers name so I can go kick his @ss for his daughter hurting my sons feeling, lol . Kidding well ,kind off.



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 07:40 PM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: ANNED

As I understand it, the law in Alabama is that one does have to be 21 to purchase a firearm without parental supervision... as in, the parent has to be present and sign the paperwork.

We also have a law that anyone getting a hunting license past a certain age (I'm grandfathered) must pass a firearm safety course. I like that!

TheRedneck


Alabama does have one of the highest rate of deaths by firearms, along with most southern states, and those wacky liberal states have the least.....
www.cdc.gov...



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 07:40 PM
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originally posted by: dogstar23
a reply to: roadgravel

I think the biggest problem is we dont lock up psychopaths anymore until they've actually killed a bunch of people. Most of the time we just give them pills we hope they take, which allow them to blend into society better.


We used to put people like this away, but then there was a "movement" and what about their "quality of life" and all this #. What about the quality of life of the people he just killed and maimed?

That doesn't mean we need to go back to the old days where asylums were complete nightmares and people could be locked up for all kinds of silly reasons, but there has to be some middle ground between that and what we have now, where these psychos just go free until they snap because no one wants to take that step.



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 07:40 PM
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What's really scary to me is how people react in these situations. Post on social media. I want my kids to be thinking about how to get to safety, not reaching for their cell phone.
guess it is about time to have a good reminder chat with them.



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 07:42 PM
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It was just discovered that the full name of the shooter is “Nicolas de Jesus Cruz” and that he is a registered Democrat in the state of Flordia. It is becoming more clear that this individual was NOT, in fact, an actual Trump supporter, as is being reported by the media as the result of the image that shows Cruz wearing a MAGA hat.



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 07:42 PM
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a reply to: JWillhmmm,imagine that. The media lying.haha



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 07:43 PM
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originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Soulece
What is the point of this weapon?


Generally the same as any other rifle, since it has the same mechanism as any other rifle. It's for hunting, self defense and/or competition. It's just black and look scary, but it works the same as a wooden-stocked semi-auto.


First off, no it does not work the same. Secondly, why is it needed for defense? Can't a handgun do just as much? Or is it because it can fire off more rounds in a short amount of time? Well you would only need that in what, a zombie invasion? Or, war. Hows it for hunting when something else that is less effective on paper can still do the same thing? Surely you cant need that gun to hunt. I mean heck, a bow and arrow is good enough for hunting. And why competition? Why does this matter?

So again, I ask you, what really do we need those type of guns for? At least access to the public?

..Competition, get outta here lol


Um, yes it does work the same as any other semi-auto rifle, whether it has a wooden stock or black composite stock. You're wrong. Any wooden-stocked semi-auto can be fitted with larger capacity mags. Even if the manufacturer doesn't make them, they're easy to get aftermarket and even if they were banned they're remarkably simple to build. They're literally just a box with a spring inside it.

They're for everything I said they're for. You may not like that answer because you have an agenda, but it's 100% true.


My agenda is limiting amounts of casualties. We can have guns. I do not see necessary fit for some of them. If there's deaths, I want the number to be as minimal as possible. Of course I'm not a law maker so this is just ideals. But that's my agenda.


Well if you want to advance that agenda I suggest you open your mind to contrary information like I just presented. Part of what defeats your movement is it's so full of misinformation, so anyone who has the slightest clue hears the lies and writes you off as a gun grabbing nut. Most pro-gun folks are open to reasonable restrictions. We're all about safety. The biggest gun safety organization in the US is the NRA, but people who don't know anything are so brainwashed that the NRA is evil that when I even mention them taking an NRA-certified safety course they have an instant negative reaction. That's wrong. It defeats the whole purpose of what you want to do.



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 07:44 PM
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originally posted by: sugarandspice
What's really scary to me is how people react in these situations. Post on social media. I want my kids to be thinking about how to get to safety, not reaching for their cell phone.
guess it is about time to have a good reminder chat with them.


I hear that. A few years ago there was a plane on fire at the gate and all these idiots are stopping to get their phones out to record instead of quickly getting off the #ing plane. Can't pass up an opportunity for some Facebook likes!



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 07:44 PM
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originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Soulece
What is the point of this weapon?


Generally the same as any other rifle, since it has the same mechanism as any other rifle. It's for hunting, self defense and/or competition. It's just black and look scary, but it works the same as a wooden-stocked semi-auto.


First off, no it does not work the same. Secondly, why is it needed for defense? Can't a handgun do just as much? Or is it because it can fire off more rounds in a short amount of time? Well you would only need that in what, a zombie invasion? Or, war. Hows it for hunting when something else that is less effective on paper can still do the same thing? Surely you cant need that gun to hunt. I mean heck, a bow and arrow is good enough for hunting. And why competition? Why does this matter?

So again, I ask you, what really do we need those type of guns for? At least access to the public?

..Competition, get outta here lol


Um, yes it does work the same as any other semi-auto rifle, whether it has a wooden stock or black composite stock. You're wrong. Any wooden-stocked semi-auto can be fitted with larger capacity mags. Even if the manufacturer doesn't make them, they're easy to get aftermarket and even if they were banned they're remarkably simple to build. They're literally just a box with a spring inside it.

They're for everything I said they're for. You may not like that answer because you have an agenda, but it's 100% true.


My agenda is limiting amounts of casualties. We can have guns. I do not see necessary fit for some of them. If there's deaths, I want the number to be as minimal as possible. Of course I'm not a law maker so this is just ideals. But that's my agenda.


Well if you want to advance that agenda I suggest you open your mind to contrary information like I just presented. Part of what defeats your movement is it's so full of misinformation, so anyone who has the slightest clue hears the lies and writes you off as a gun grabbing nut. Most pro-gun folks are open to reasonable restrictions. We're all about safety. The biggest gun safety organization in the US is the NRA, but people who don't know anything are so brainwashed that the NRA is evil that when I even mention them taking an NRA-certified safety course they have an instant negative reaction. That's wrong. It defeats the whole purpose of what you want to do.


How much would society change is my ideal were to take action? You say not at all? So this kid today goes in with a handgun, same amount of time spent firing. Same casualties?
I dont give a # about the NRA. I know they aren't all good.



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 07:46 PM
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Earlier in the day, and at the other end of Broward County, there was a bomb threat which caused the school to be evacuated:


www.850wftl.com...
Authorities say they have evacuated Hallandale High School after the school reported receiving a bomb threat Wednesday.


Coincidence or conspiracy?



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 07:47 PM
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originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: ANNED

As I understand it, the law in Alabama is that one does have to be 21 to purchase a firearm without parental supervision... as in, the parent has to be present and sign the paperwork.

We also have a law that anyone getting a hunting license past a certain age (I'm grandfathered) must pass a firearm safety course. I like that!

TheRedneck


Alabama does have one of the highest rate of deaths by firearms, along with most southern states, and those wacky liberal states have the least.....
www.cdc.gov...


What they don't tell you is 2/3rd of those are suicides. Why do you think Alaska is #1? Alaska has a lot of suicides because of a well known effect of isolation in the long winters. They even warned us about it when I got stationed there.



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 07:48 PM
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posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 07:49 PM
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a reply to: Soulece

Ask the Virginia Tech victims, that shooter exclusively used handguns.

All semi-automatics have the same rate of fire, whether it's a handgun, a wooden-stocked rifle, or an AR-15. It fires as fast as you can release the trigger and pull it again.

ETA: For the record, he killed 33 and wounded 17.
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posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 07:49 PM
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Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting differant results...


I think this has more to do with psychology, not the fact that guns are sold in America.

In any case holy crap what another sad story, I advise people not to watch the snap chat videos hearing little kids screaming in terror is agonizing. If we could only hurry up and invent time travel....
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posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 07:50 PM
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originally posted by: Deplorable

originally posted by: Soulece
What is the point of this weapon?


Oklahoma Man Uses AR-15 to Kill Three Teen Home Intruders
'Nuff said.


Same could be done with another gun. A gun acts as a gun.

Also, the Las Vegas shooting never would of occurred.
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posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 07:51 PM
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In what way does it work differently than my semi-auto rifle. Only difference is mine has it's original wooden stock. It takes the large capacity mags. It'd be ridiculously easy to build even larger capacity mags in my friends work shop, or in mine, once it's ready to go.

Oh, it's that color that's got you, huh? Black and scary.

An old Texas ranger, whose name escapes me at the moment, once rather tellingly said a pistol is only good enough in a fight 'til I get to my rifle.

Oh, and by the bye, most pistols these days are semi-auto, working exactly the same as that oh so scary rifle, and have large capacity mags available. Mine certainly does.

Zombie invasion...well, they'd certainly be useful in such a nonsensical scenario. But no. But essentially, I have mine because I can. See, I, and the millions of others who own firearms, even those big scary ones you don't like, don't need to justify anything to anyone, much less some one such as yourself who's already made up his/her mind...



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 07:52 PM
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originally posted by: Bicent
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting differant results...


I think this has more to do with psychology, not the fact that guns are sold in America.

In any case holy crap what another sad story, I advise people not to watch the snap chat videos hearing little kids screaming in terror is agonizing. I we could only hurry up and invent time travel....


You're correct in that it has nothing to do with guns being sold. If you look at the statistics country by country, there's no correlation between the availability of firearms and the gun death rate. That proves gun availability isn't the driving factor. What we have in common with other countries that have high gun death rates is high overall crime rates. We're too soft on our criminals and our society glorifies violence and criminal activity.




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