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Comey told congress that Michael Flynn didn't lie.

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posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 07:42 AM
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Story on True Pundit.


According to two sources familiar with the meetings, Comey told lawmakers that the FBI agents who interviewed Flynn did not believe that Flynn had lied to them, or that any inaccuracies in his answers were intentional. As a result, some of those in attendance came away with the impression that Flynn would not be charged with a crime pertaining to the January 24 interview.

Nine months later, with special counsel Robert Mueller in charge of the Trump-Russia investigation, Flynn pleaded guilty to one count of making false statements to the FBI in that January 24 questioning.

What happened? With Flynn awaiting sentencing — that was recently delayed until at least May — some lawmakers are trying to figure out what occurred between the time Comey told Congress the FBI did not believe Flynn lied and the time, several months later, when Flynn pleaded guilty to just that.


At this point, it's not hard to figure out what happened. Mueller found some inaccuracy in Flynn's answer, and like the dirty cop he is pressured Flynn into pleading guilty to perjury just to bolster his cred. That's why sentencing was delayed: there's every chance the charge against Flynn will fall apart, even at this late stage.

Edit: Note that we've never been told, even in general terms, what Flynn supposedly lied about. Probably because it was something ridiculously minor, or something that any reasonable person would realize was probably a simple mistake.
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posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 07:47 AM
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a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

From what I understand, Flynn plead guilty to that charge so he did not face even more serious charges and he agreed to help with the investigation in some manner. That is why the sentencing has been delayed. They want to make sure Flynn holds up his end of the deal.



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 07:53 AM
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a reply to: AndyFromMichigan


There is a thread like 10 above this, same....also there was one yesterday. Notice the source. Comey testified ON CAMERA, so yeah. Why dont you watch that.

www.abovetopsecret.com...





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posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 07:56 AM
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a reply to: AndyFromMichigan




According to two sources familiar with the meetings, Comey told lawmakers that the FBI agents who interviewed Flynn did not believe that Flynn had lied to them



wow...Is lying to the FBI is criminal offense ? But didnt Hillary lie when...ugh...I forgot. She didnt mean it.

Carry on.



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 08:07 AM
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originally posted by: MarioOnTheFly
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan




According to two sources familiar with the meetings, Comey told lawmakers that the FBI agents who interviewed Flynn did not believe that Flynn had lied to them



wow...Is lying to the FBI is criminal offense ? But didnt Hillary lie when...ugh...I forgot. She didnt mean it.

Carry on.

Flynn didn't mean it, either. I guess it's only illegal when Republicans do it, right introvert?
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posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 08:14 AM
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originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

originally posted by: MarioOnTheFly
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan




According to two sources familiar with the meetings, Comey told lawmakers that the FBI agents who interviewed Flynn did not believe that Flynn had lied to them



wow...Is lying to the FBI is criminal offense ? But didnt Hillary lie when...ugh...I forgot. She didnt mean it.

Carry on.

Flynn didn't mean it, either. I guess it's only illegal when Republicans do it, right introvert?


No. It's an offense no matter who does it.

But I think you are purposefully misrepresenting the context of this situation. Flynn supposedly plead guilty to that charge in exchange for the lesser charge and his assistance in the investigation.

That means he stood to face even more serious charges.
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posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 08:23 AM
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Either Flynn lied or he didn't.

The only reason they know he lied is because of ILLEGAL surveillance.

Good luck with trying to pin anything on Flynn.



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 08:26 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
Either Flynn lied or he didn't.

The only reason they know he lied is because of ILLEGAL surveillance.

Good luck with trying to pin anything on Flynn.


Don't need to pin anything on him. He already plead guilty to it.



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 08:30 AM
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I foresee lots of fake evidence being exposed real soon 😁



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 08:49 AM
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a reply to: introvert

Guilt had nothing to do with it.



Flynn said in a statement after pleading guilty that he did so "in the best interests of my family and of our country." "It has been extraordinarily painful to endure these many months of false accusations of 'treason' and other outrageous acts," he said.


www.nbcnews.com...

And again.

ILLEGALLY SPYING on Flynn.

4 different FISA judges.

Never Trump ruined Flynns life.

FOR WHAT?

A political power play.



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 08:51 AM
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a reply to: neo96

Ahh, yes. Never Trump made him plead guilty.

Is that the new nutter conspiracy?



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 08:54 AM
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a reply to: introvert

Those are the actual words of Flynn, and you get 'nutter conspiracy'.

Just quit.



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 09:00 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: introvert

Those are the actual words of Flynn, and you get 'nutter conspiracy'.

Just quit.


Flynn said Never Trump made him plead guilty, despite documents being filed that he made false statements on two occasions?

Sure...Never Trump did all that.



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 09:01 AM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: neo96
Either Flynn lied or he didn't.

The only reason they know he lied is because of ILLEGAL surveillance.

Good luck with trying to pin anything on Flynn.


Don't need to pin anything on him. He already plead guilty to it.

There are people that have done prison time as a result of flawed DNA evidence causing them to plead guilty.
In this case, the man plead guilty to lying to FBI agents... the evidence is in written memos that the agents write... no recordings(audio or video).
I guess if the FBI wanted to be more 'stone age', they would need to carve their 302's on a rock.
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posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 09:18 AM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

From what I understand, Flynn plead guilty to that charge so he did not face even more serious charges and he agreed to help with the investigation in some manner. That is why the sentencing has been delayed. They want to make sure Flynn holds up his end of the deal.



That's speculation that we've all read or heard, but I echo the OP's point that we've never been told what he supposedly lied about. I've also wondered about that. No indication at all about what the lie was.

Do you find that odd, or wonder what his lie was?



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 09:20 AM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

originally posted by: MarioOnTheFly
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan




According to two sources familiar with the meetings, Comey told lawmakers that the FBI agents who interviewed Flynn did not believe that Flynn had lied to them



wow...Is lying to the FBI is criminal offense ? But didnt Hillary lie when...ugh...I forgot. She didnt mean it.

Carry on.

Flynn didn't mean it, either. I guess it's only illegal when Republicans do it, right introvert?


No. It's an offense no matter who does it.

But I think you are purposefully misrepresenting the context of this situation. Flynn supposedly plead guilty to that charge in exchange for the lesser charge and his assistance in the investigation.

That means he stood to face even more serious charges.


You said it yourself, he "supposedly" plead guilty in order to avoid more serious charges.

Could you give us a source for that?

And WHAT did he lie about?



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 09:21 AM
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originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: neo96
Either Flynn lied or he didn't.

The only reason they know he lied is because of ILLEGAL surveillance.

Good luck with trying to pin anything on Flynn.


Don't need to pin anything on him. He already plead guilty to it.

There are people that have done prison time as a result of flawed DNA evidence causing them to plead guilty.
In this case, the man plead guilty to lying to FBI agents... the evidence is in written memos that the agents write... no recordings(audio or video).
I guess if the FBI wanted to be more 'stone age', they would need to carve their 302's on a rock.

The FBI's policy of not recording interviews is highly suspect. I would argue they do it for the explicit purpose of facilitating perjury traps exactly like the one they caught Flynn in. By not recording the interview, they can claim the suspect said whatever they want.



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 10:02 AM
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originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: neo96
Either Flynn lied or he didn't.

The only reason they know he lied is because of ILLEGAL surveillance.

Good luck with trying to pin anything on Flynn.


Don't need to pin anything on him. He already plead guilty to it.

There are people that have done prison time as a result of flawed DNA evidence causing them to plead guilty.
In this case, the man plead guilty to lying to FBI agents... the evidence is in written memos that the agents write... no recordings(audio or video).
I guess if the FBI wanted to be more 'stone age', they would need to carve their 302's on a rock.

The FBI's policy of not recording interviews is highly suspect. I would argue they do it for the explicit purpose of facilitating perjury traps exactly like the one they caught Flynn in. By not recording the interview, they can claim the suspect said whatever they want.


You know, what IS the reason they've given for not recording interviews? Have they ever given one, do we know? They must have. I'm curious what that reason "officially" is.

Even local small town cops record interviews, don't they? How many times have we seen a video recording, on one of those murder-porn crime shows, of suspects being questioned? I mean we even get to see what the suspects are doing when the cops leave the room! And these are small town jurisdictions in the middle of nowhere, and they seemingly have the resources to record.

So why can't the FBI in DC, with all of the resources at their disposal, record their interviews? Especially with high level and high profile cases involving, for instance, the former Secretary of State oh the U.S.?!



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 11:10 AM
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originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: neo96
Either Flynn lied or he didn't.

The only reason they know he lied is because of ILLEGAL surveillance.

Good luck with trying to pin anything on Flynn.


Don't need to pin anything on him. He already plead guilty to it.

There are people that have done prison time as a result of flawed DNA evidence causing them to plead guilty.
In this case, the man plead guilty to lying to FBI agents... the evidence is in written memos that the agents write... no recordings(audio or video).
I guess if the FBI wanted to be more 'stone age', they would need to carve their 302's on a rock.


Not sure what your point is, really. Are you saying that Flynn was tricked in to pleading guilty?

He admitted he lied.
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posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 11:18 AM
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a reply to: KansasGirl



That's speculation that we've all read or heard, but I echo the OP's point that we've never been told what he supposedly lied about.


It has been reported that he lied to the FBI about his conversations with Kislyak. You can read the charges here:

www.nytimes.com...

The charges/accusation seem to be fairly specific in what he is accused of lying to the FBI about.



You said it yourself, he "supposedly" plead guilty in order to avoid more serious charges. Could you give us a source for that? And WHAT did he lie about?


Sure.


The court filings in connection with the plea reveal the likely reason Flynn was able to get that deal: He has agreed to cooperate in the special counsel’s investigation. In exchange, prosecutors have agreed not to pursue additional charges related to his lies to the FBI and not to charge Flynn for false statements he made when he belatedly registered last March as a foreign agent of Turkey. They may even have agreed to show leniency toward Flynn’s son, who reportedly faced legal troubles of his own. But the plea agreement does not appear to prohibit the special counsel from later pursing charges in completely different areas, including other false statements or obstruction, money laundering or the alleged kidnapping plot. That could mean prosecutors have concluded those charges are without merit, or could indicate there are still some areas of potential leverage over Flynn that prosecutors have held back.


www.washingtonpost.com... ?utm_term=.ed5262e63903




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