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Should we fix Gays/Transgenders in the womb (assuming we could)??

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posted on Feb, 15 2018 @ 11:29 AM
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a reply to: jjkenobi

That’s ridiculous and just shows how easily you are fooled by conservative propaganda..


You couldn’t provide one single quote from an elected democrat , nor head of some big liberal group saying that..

It is all just part of rightwing fantasy land..

Where everyone wants to ban all the guns, abortions should be extended till 5 min before your due date, white males are the most discriminated against (please ignore the fact they run EVERYTHING lmao) , war on Christmas, Shiria law in America , exc, exc, exc...


You think after decades of such rhetoric and nothing ever happening right wingers would figure out they are getting played..


But then again they all tend to be religious and religion trains you to ignore reality and just believe whatever you want...so I guess I shouldn’t be as surprised as I always am..




posted on Feb, 15 2018 @ 11:31 AM
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a reply to: IanMoone2

“There is already a test, but I can’t provide evidence of said test because the super secret illuminati is using it to make all the frogs gay...”

What garbage..



posted on Feb, 15 2018 @ 11:33 AM
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a reply to: verschickter

Considering the soul isn’t science, and there is absolutely no evidence of a soul, afterlife nor anything like that...

I think you can’t be applying your personal religion to other people’s lives..



posted on Feb, 15 2018 @ 11:36 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

If we had a "cure" then yes.. fix it. Being transgender is a disorder. You cant be another gender.. you cant alter your DNA. Fact. Fix it because this spreading of transgender is called sociopathy.



posted on Feb, 15 2018 @ 01:17 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

You read soul and think religion. We are not only biological machines, we do have a consciousness that runs on those machines if you get what I mean. To a degree this is hardwired but what comes after the "bootup" is unique to everyone. Animals, too to a degree. Plant´s I don´t know but probably, if we look at it from a technical point of view.

I think you jump to conclusions way to fast, generally. Just an observation.



posted on Feb, 15 2018 @ 01:30 PM
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originally posted by: verschickter
My answer to this specific question is no! You shouldn´t have used right or left as an example either.

I also don´t believe that being gay is something genetic. I think it has to do with the "soul-layer", not the "cell-layer" of our blueprint.

I think, generally we don´t have the right to manipulate on that level EXCEPT if it´s health related. But how do we define "normal health condition". Health is generally body related (there are connections, though). Therefoer, please leave the soul-part alone, and therefore gays, left, right, anarchists, democrats, religious people of any kind, non religious people of any kind, regardless the skin color, heritage, language, culture or ANYTHING else I´ve forgot to mention (you get the drift -> soul related)

But, I give you credit for asking it.

TL;DR: NO!!!

i agree with you about the "soul-layer", but if we gonthst route in the discussion, factor in all the previous lifetimes as that affects the genetics we are born into by the karmic circumstance. I feel the answer lies not in trying to fix the genetic code as much as help the soul overcome its predisposition from past desires.
Go Buddha



posted on Feb, 15 2018 @ 01:49 PM
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Sure and whil wete at it lets fox other things too....no no no did i say no yet no no no no



posted on Feb, 15 2018 @ 01:58 PM
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Only as a pure thought experiment, I say if you can fix it in the womb, why not for transgender?
Since everybody starts of as female, prevent the little todger from growing, or make one grow.
However, I'm not sure if this puts the cart before the horse, since the brain might not be fully developed yet, to see if one might be dealing with a life-long transgender person.
One would have to recognize it a virtually "amoeba" stage.

If this could be recognized, then why not?
I mean some want surgical and pharma interventions for younger and younger people, so why not start in the womb?
Make some major stuff-ups, like they did with inter-sex people shortly after birth for yonks, but hey, you tried to keep the gender binary clear-cut (sarcasm).

Of course it might not work as such, because some genes and brain-wiring may be turned on and off during an entire course of life, but anything to keep the strategic essentialism of current heterosexuality and much lgbt activism going.

But what if the parents actually want a trans or lgbt child (Absolutely Fabulous - Edwina always wished Saffron would come out as lesbian, and finally have something remarkable about her) - should they have the right to change mainly heterosexual fetuses to their taste of kid too?

I would say circumcise them in the womb too, if possible (for religious parents).
Probably a lot less traumatic to be born without a foreskin or a clit (and vulva) then losing it at a later stage.
And if they feel hard-done by later, parents can just tell them: "Sweetie, you were born this way. We didn't mutilate you! God wanted you to be this way (wink, wink - little white lie)."

And if you're in the Heaven's Gate cult, just cut it all off in the womb, and they come out little clones named after tones.
edit on 15-2-2018 by halfoldman because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 15 2018 @ 04:56 PM
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a reply to: sapien82

They are classified by people who have agendas, I do not



posted on Feb, 15 2018 @ 05:43 PM
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I can just picture it - A. H. : Artificial Heterosexuality.

The ultimate male clean of any same-gender attraction or feelings whatsoever, and any emotional feelings of the opposite gender.

I'd be afraid ... I'd be very afraid!

Which percentage are you gonna cut out?



posted on Feb, 15 2018 @ 06:54 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox



who's "we"?



posted on Feb, 15 2018 @ 07:58 PM
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The only way I could imagine this being done, is if one inspects the parents first.

They will carry the lgbt DNA.

A society where such prenatal "correction" is warranted, it will mean the death or sterilization of millions of heterosexuals too.

Now I wonder where we've heard this before?



posted on Feb, 15 2018 @ 08:36 PM
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a reply to: halfoldman

It’s a thought experiment.. so that part is irrelevant, but I could see a brain scan workingand ultrasound getting to the point it can register neurons..


I suspect if it is biological that is where it happens..


Somewhere at the core of the ID in the brain. Some wire goes left when it should have gone right..



We already do prenatal surgery..



posted on Feb, 15 2018 @ 09:32 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

I'm with the thought experiment.

Leading me in different directions.

But if heterosexuals carry the latent genes for lgbt (as research so far indicates) then any society that regards the child as "fixable", might also regard the parents as expendable.
In fact, there could be communist-style collective punishment and removal for extended families.

Not saying you proposed that kind of fascism (like I said in an earlier post maybe some people want an lgbt child).

There's a neutral, a positive and a negative way to look at it.
My last post looks at the negative implications.
But ultimately we're speaking of "designer" humans.

Parents are always seen as a conservative cluster.
But, for whatever psychological or ideological reason there are some parents who actually want "trans" kids.
That is apparent.
They may call it "non-binary' or whatever, but should those parents also be able to choose a deliberately altered trans fetus?

Are we talking of a society where all parents can tweak the gender-identity and sexuality of their child?
Or are we talking of a society that wants to wipe out lgbt?

The context is the question.
And in some places this will be used to exterminate lgbt people.
So my answer is no, really.
Come into life as you are - and make the world sparkle!
edit on 15-2-2018 by halfoldman because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 16 2018 @ 03:37 AM
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a reply to: fatkid

if by people you mean scientists and by classification you mean scientific classification then yes you are correct and their agenda is to disseminate objective fact

I completely understand there are those who wish to distort the truth or bend it to meet a certain agenda , such as the race agenda



posted on Feb, 16 2018 @ 04:07 AM
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So this would mean that people could also choose to have gay kids. Would people be happy with that?



posted on Feb, 16 2018 @ 04:30 AM
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Being gay/trans doesn't affect nor hurt the lives of others, so why do they need 'fixing'?

It's the paedos and the murderers and the psychopathic whackjobs that rule over us that needs 'fixing' before they hatch.

Our 'civilised' part of the world is actually a crime-ridden Hell-hole and the rest of it is full of raging war and starving humans and none of it looks like changing anytime soon. Fix that.



posted on Feb, 16 2018 @ 08:54 AM
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a reply to: sapien82

There are always people who have something to gain, homosexuality can’t be an evolutionary upgrade, it would lead to extinction, it must be a defect.



posted on Feb, 16 2018 @ 08:56 AM
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a reply to: doobydoll

I agree 100%



posted on Feb, 16 2018 @ 09:01 AM
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a reply to: fatkid

according to the study linked in the the thread earlier , homosexuality is a part of human nature in order to ensure that large populations do not result within the family/tribal unit in order to prevent starvation.

Watch that youtube link

If you have an increasingly large population with finite resources it will eventually lead to collapse and death to nearly every member of the group.
So it is a survival mechanism







 
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