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Earliest reverence of 33 in religion?

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posted on Feb, 12 2018 @ 06:11 PM
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Im trying to track down some religious origins, and looking for the earliest usage of 33.

So far I have the 33 Vedic gods, and the 33 Zoroastrian virtues of heaven as the oldest examples, dating 2000-1500bc at the very oldest estimate.

Does anyone have an older example of '33' in religion?

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Fun facts:
A normal human spine has 33 vertebrae when the bones that form the coccyx are counted individually.

The Yakuoji Temple in Japan has a two sets of steps, one with 42 steps for men to climb, and the other side with 33 steps for the women.

The Saigoku Kannon Pilgrimage visits thirty-three Buddhist temples throughout the Kansai region of Japan.

The House of the Temple, Home of The Supreme Council, 33°, Ancient & Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry in Washington D.C., USA has 33 outer columns which are each 33 feet high.

Islamic prayer beads are generally arranged in sets of 33, corresponding to the widespread use of this number in dhikr rituals.

Jesus was 33 when he was crucified, in 33 A.D.

33 is not only a numerical representation of "the Star of David," but also the numerical equivalent of AMEN: 1+13+5+14=33




posted on Feb, 12 2018 @ 06:13 PM
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originally posted by: AdKiller
Jesus was 33 when he was crucified, in 33 A.D.

Okay, but... uh... forget it.



posted on Feb, 12 2018 @ 06:29 PM
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The key to this degree/symbolism, in my opinion, is that 33 is one above 32, which represents freezing. 33 represents melting the ice.

The spine and jesus stuff also relates. Can't have a human body until you're defrosted....you know...from the cryogenics.



posted on Feb, 12 2018 @ 06:38 PM
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a reply to: FlukeSkywalker

33 changes the state of matter? or is it 32?



posted on Feb, 12 2018 @ 06:45 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

Don't they both? One freezes, one defrosts...



posted on Feb, 12 2018 @ 06:48 PM
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a reply to: FlukeSkywalker

they represent transformation?



posted on Feb, 12 2018 @ 07:26 PM
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a reply to: AdKiller

Apparently 33 represents an individual who has mastered mind and emotions.

Here’s an interesting take on it.
mastermindcontent.co.uk...



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 01:05 AM
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originally posted by: Blue Shift

originally posted by: AdKiller
Jesus was 33 when he was crucified, in 33 A.D.

Okay, but... uh... forget it.


This is "Conspiracy in Religion" not "History" or "My Religion Is.."

I never asked what it means, just looking for an example predating Avestan or Hindu. Anyone study Summerian? I wanna find the oldest reference..



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 01:19 AM
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a reply to: FlukeSkywalker

An alchemist created the F° scale for that very reason, he wanted transformation at 33. Its an arbitrary value.. Zero in other scales;Celsius, Newton.

Water boils at 33 Newton. Another arbitrary value assigned by an alchemist. I'm trying to look past all that.. by a couple thousand years..
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posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 09:23 AM
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You all know who tins is don't you?

Gnosesisfatih back from the 110th ATS banned user accounts.

He is currently bobbing two ATS User accounts, both of which fit his MO quite nicely.
edit on 14-2-2018 by ChesterJohn because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 12:22 PM
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originally posted by: AdKiller
This is "Conspiracy in Religion" not "History" or "My Religion Is.."
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I never asked what it means, just looking for an example predating Avestan or Hindu. Anyone study Summerian? I wanna find the oldest reference..

I was just indicating that of course Jesus would be 33 years old in 33 AD since it was his birth that started the clock at 0 AD. You suggest that it was some kind of amazing coincidence.



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 01:34 PM
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One third of the angels were cast down with Lucifer. That is what 33 is about, IMO.



posted on Feb, 19 2018 @ 05:55 PM
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a reply to: AdKiller
In Kabbalah the "Tree of Life" has 32 paths but if you include the 11th sephirah, Da'at, you then have 33. Naturally, this is by no means the earliest literal occurrence of the number in religion, but I feel certain that it is linked to the 33rd degree in Freemasonry.



posted on Mar, 7 2018 @ 04:18 AM
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edit on 3-7-2018 by lightofgratitude because: Nevermind



posted on Mar, 7 2018 @ 05:05 AM
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a reply to: AdKiller
Go back to the Apple of Knowledge event with 11 meaning Rebellion.
Eve rebelled against YHWH's single Rule.

Multiply this by the UnHoly Trinity (3) and you have 11 x 3 = 33.



posted on Apr, 20 2018 @ 12:10 AM
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a reply to: AdKiller

Deriving the number 33 -

Using numerology:

3+3=6
3x3=9

We get the numbers 6 and 9.

6 is the number of the Hexagram.

There are 6 sides of the Hexagram. The Hexagram is composed of two opposing equilateral triangles.
An equilateral triangle has 60° on each corner, therefore; 60°, 60°, 60° or 666.

Ref: study.com...

Since the Hexagram has 2 opposing triangles, therefore; 60°+ 60°+ 60°= 180 x 2 = 360

360=36 (0 is omitted, no value)

We get the number 36. Deriving the number 36, we get:

1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12+13+14+15+16+17+18+19+20+21+22
+23+24+25+26+27+28+29+30+31+32+33+34+35+36=666

We get 666 again. Therefore, the secret number of the Hexagram is 666.

9 is the number of the inverted Pentagram.

Within the pentagram, the angles are: 108°, 72°and 36°

Ref: eyephi.com...

Using numerology:

108°= 1+0+8 = 9
72°= 7+2 = 9
36° = 3 + 6 = 9

We get the number 9 from these angles. What if we add all the angles?

108+72+36=216=2+1+6 = 9
108+72 = 180 = 1+8+0 = 9
72+36 = 108 = 1+0+8 = 9
108+36 = 144 = 1+4+4 = 9

We get a persistent number 9. How about we multiply the angles?

108x72x36 = 279936 = 2+7+9+9+3+6 = 36 = 3+6 = 9
108x72 = 7776 = 27 = 2+7 = 9
72x36 = 2592 = 2+5+9+2 = 18 = 1+8 = 9
108x36 = 3888 = 3+8+8+8 = 27 = 2+7 =9

We still get a persistent number 9. How about we reverse the angles?

108+72+36 ----> 801+27+63=891= 8+9+1 = 18 = 1+8 = 9
108+72 ----> 801+27= 828 = 8+2+8 = 18 = 1+8 = 9
72+36 ----> 27+63= 90 = 9+0 =9
108+36 ----> 801+63= 864 = 8+6+4 = 18 = 1+8 = 9

Even if we reverse the angles, we still get the persistent number 9. It's the same thing even if we multiply the reverse angles:

108x36 ----> 801x63 = 50463 = 5+0+4+6+3 = 18 = 1+8 =9
72x36 ----> 27x63 = 1701 = 1+7+0+1 = 9

Within the pentagram, lies a magical number 9.

Therefore, the number 33 is a mystic number and is used in witchcraft and devil worship.

Ex: The highest degree in Freemason is 33°.
edit on 20-4-2018 by sonofthunder because: (no reason given)



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