Obama's portraits unveiled

a reply to: matafuchs

Translation: He hates white women (people) and loves seeing depictions of them decapitated.

Had he chosen an artist that once depicted him being raped by a homeless white woman (person) shoving a champagne bottle up his a**, maybe I would buy his espoused interest in seeing "our ideas of power and privilege" challenged.

I felt the painting were, well just bad, but now after hearing about the artist they chose.
Just wow, headless white women.
What a piece of crap. Take your pick on who I'm talking about.

originally posted by: GuidedKill
From another site but it made me laugh...


On another note why does it have to be so far from the norm? lol it's so "look at me".

The first thing I thought of after seeing this was the Fresh Prince of Bel Air with his jacket... I liked that show. I see some of the same, but different, with T.

The artist that painted the woman holding the head typically does modernized versions of old master paintings, but substituting black people. That one was based on Judith and Holofernes. The story was that Holofernes was a dude who was hot on Judith, but was going to demolish her city (I think). So, she gets him drunk, then cuts off his head. It is supposed to feature a woman as a strong hero.

I’m not sure the head in this guy’s version is a woman. It could be a clean-shaven guy with long hair. Would you guys be much happier if it was a black dude’s head?

a reply to: kaylaluv

...so it was based on historical mythos? Hmmm... was that excuse allowed to be peacefully used to stymie attacks against Confederate statues and works of art last year?

originally posted by: Bluntone22
I felt the painting were, well just bad, but now after hearing about the artist they chose.
Just wow, headless white women.
What a piece of crap. Take your pick on who I'm talking about.

Oh Oh Oh, can I pick all the above

originally posted by: GuidedKill
From another site but it made me laugh...


On another note why does it have to be so far from the norm? lol it's so "look at me".

LMAO , I wonder if he feels stupid now about his choice, lol

originally posted by: kaylaluv
The artist that painted the woman holding the head typically does modernized versions of old master paintings, but substituting black people. That one was based on Judith and Holofernes. The story was that Holofernes was a dude who was hot on Judith, but was going to demolish her city (I think). So, she gets him drunk, then cuts off his head. It is supposed to feature a woman as a strong hero.

I’m not sure the head in this guy’s version is a woman. It could be a clean-shaven guy with long hair. Would you guys be much happier if it was a black dude’s head?

There are two paintings: Link

First, I want to repeat that I like the artist's work. I just don't appreciate Obama selecting this artist based on his portfolio.

However, to address your point...obviously, the heads are very feminized versions of men, if that's what they are, but it puts things in a more specific context in light of the story behind the original works.

It's still an incredibly divisive choice. It's also interesting given the recent discussion on black women and "the savior syndrome"....

...which I have yet to understand despite all the discussion. (In fact, I wonder if this artist will be the impetus to more fun discussions on black women and "the savior syndrome.")

This choice just doesn't shock me, from Obama. It's no different than what people criticize about Trump.

If it was a black man's head? I think I might like it more. That would actually be a real challenge to "our ideas of power and privilege." No one wants to talk about the ideas behind that.

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Also, fake news headlines and feminine looking man heads? I don't feel bad jumping to conclusions if they are men. It's still intended as a slap...just feels less personal to me.

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: Bluntone22

Those are heinous....and they forgot Michael's penis....

Terrible pictures, I agree. but are we know calling all first ladies Transexuals or just the black ones? I didn't get the memo. Or should all ladies be judged on their looks no matter age, race or physical imperfections? My grandmother's going to be pissed, at 80 she doesn't look like a beauty queen any longer.

a reply to: amazing

To be fair, trumps looks haven't exactly been treated with kid gloves.
Do First Ladies need protected?
Or just black ones?

originally posted by: amazing

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: Bluntone22

Those are heinous....and they forgot Michael's penis....

Terrible pictures, I agree. but are we know calling all first ladies Transexuals or just the black ones? I didn't get the memo. Or should all ladies be judged on their looks no matter age, race or physical imperfections? My grandmother's going to be pissed, at 80 she doesn't look like a beauty queen any longer.

Way to bring race into it. Take a good look at yourself. That's the first thing you default to. His comment may have been immature, but it had nothing to do with race. Join us in the 21st century, bigot.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: amazing

To be fair, trumps looks haven't exactly been treated with kid gloves.
Do First Ladies need protected?
Or just black ones?

I think all first ladies should be off limits. I don't pick on Melania and would never call her a shemale or transgender. Nor would I do that for Barbara Bush or Nancy Reagon etc. It's pretty low to insult anyone's looks no matter if you disagree with them or not. Potus is a little bit different but even so, I don't do it and I look down on those that do....

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: amazing

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: Bluntone22

Those are heinous....and they forgot Michael's penis....

Terrible pictures, I agree. but are we know calling all first ladies Transexuals or just the black ones? I didn't get the memo. Or should all ladies be judged on their looks no matter age, race or physical imperfections? My grandmother's going to be pissed, at 80 she doesn't look like a beauty queen any longer.

Way to bring race into it. Take a good look at yourself. That's the first thing you default to. His comment may have been immature, but it had nothing to do with race. Join us in the 21st century, bigot.

I disagree.. I think it was a serious question. Why would he call Michelle Obama a transgender? Does he do that with all first ladies or only the black ones? I would bet that he never asked about Barbara Bush's penis. Prove me wrong.

originally posted by: amazing

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: amazing

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: Bluntone22

Those are heinous....and they forgot Michael's penis....

Terrible pictures, I agree. but are we know calling all first ladies Transexuals or just the black ones? I didn't get the memo. Or should all ladies be judged on their looks no matter age, race or physical imperfections? My grandmother's going to be pissed, at 80 she doesn't look like a beauty queen any longer.

Way to bring race into it. Take a good look at yourself. That's the first thing you default to. His comment may have been immature, but it had nothing to do with race. Join us in the 21st century, bigot.

I disagree.. I think it was a serious question. Why would he call Michelle Obama a transgender? Does he do that with all first ladies or only the black ones? I would bet that he never asked about Barbara Bush's penis. Prove me wrong.

Why would you assume it had anything to do with race? Maybe he just finds her ugly and didn't even think about her race. The fact that the first thing you assumed was it was racial reflects poorly on your part. Stop seeing everything through colored glasses. We can leave racism behind, if only you'll let us. Stop holding society back. Let go of skin color.

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: amazing

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: amazing

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: Bluntone22

Those are heinous....and they forgot Michael's penis....

Terrible pictures, I agree. but are we know calling all first ladies Transexuals or just the black ones? I didn't get the memo. Or should all ladies be judged on their looks no matter age, race or physical imperfections? My grandmother's going to be pissed, at 80 she doesn't look like a beauty queen any longer.

Way to bring race into it. Take a good look at yourself. That's the first thing you default to. His comment may have been immature, but it had nothing to do with race. Join us in the 21st century, bigot.

I disagree.. I think it was a serious question. Why would he call Michelle Obama a transgender? Does he do that with all first ladies or only the black ones? I would bet that he never asked about Barbara Bush's penis. Prove me wrong.

Why would you assume it had anything to do with race? Maybe he just finds her ugly and didn't even think about her race. The fact that the first thing you assumed was it was racial reflects poorly on your part. Stop seeing everything through colored glasses. We can leave racism behind, if only you'll let us. Stop holding society back. Let go of skin color.

Then why would he ask about her having a penis? You're saying it's okay to judge a woman by her looks and ask if she's a man, very crudely if you don't like her looks? What do you guys do when you go to a hospital to the burn ward or to an old folks assisted living home? That's a terrible way to live life and judge other people. if that's the case, he must have asked where Nancy Reagon's penis was or Barbara Bush? Yes? No?

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: kaylaluv

...so it was based on historical mythos? Hmmm... was that excuse allowed to be peacefully used to stymie attacks against Confederate statues and works of art last year?

I personally don't care what an artist does on his own. He could paint a portrait of Hitler with a halo and title it "Hitler was a Saint". I wouldn't be offended if it was in an art gallery or in a museum. What WOULD offend me is if I walked into the main lobby of a government building and found that painting there. I don't want my government sanctioning or officially approving of Hitler, which is what it would look like to me if they commissioned or purchased that painting.

a reply to: amazing

There have been multiple stories about Michelle's penis bulge.
I tend to ignore it all but it has nothing to do with her race.

a reply to: Bluntone22

wasteful spending on wasteful former presidenr.

originally posted by: proteus33
a reply to: Bluntone22

wasteful spending on wasteful former presidenr.

Maybe so, but every president gets a portrait.
In this case I hope they kept the receipt.

a reply to: japhrimu

That just makes me laugh. It looks ridiculous. I really don't know what to think of this. Surely there has to be some symbolism to this loud statement.

And why is he man spreading so widely? I thought that became a no-no and worthy of disdain during his administration.