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Cartography is one of the noblest endeavors.
One tenet of my understanding of the mysteries and liminal phenomena is reflection.
When anyone 'gazes into the abyss,' they are typically met with a reflection of their inner belief systems. In my opinion, it makes us poor reporters and even worse analysts. We can't rise above the associations and memes that are buried deep within our psyches and are steeped in the cultures that raised us. Looking around us we can see others who publish books and videos about their explanations and there's an outstanding amount of diversity in those beliefs.
In anthropology, liminality (from the Latin word līmen, meaning "a threshold") is the quality of ambiguity or disorientation that occurs in the middle stage of rituals, when participants no longer hold their pre-ritual status but have not yet begun the transition to the status they will hold when the ritual is complete. During a ritual's liminal stage, participants "stand at the threshold" between their previous way of structuring their identity, time, or community, and a new way, which the ritual establishes.
It's good to struggle with ways of expressing the clusters and networks of impressions in our minds. You've gone for 'between-world' and I went for 'Folk from Elsewhere.' Whilst neither phrase really nails down what we mean, they are evidence of contemplation. One doesn't suddenly decide to say 'between-world' without having eliminated scores of other phrases that didn't quite fit the job. For me, 'folk' could apply to entities, machine elves, thought-forms, 'ghosts' and even sentient technologies that exemplify Clarke's Third Law. It's a pluralistic term too which implies more than a Oneness. The 'Elsewhere' arises from the observation that these speculative realms and intelligences exist beyond a veil for want of a better word.
Now, wouldn't that suggest the interior infrastructure of an egregore? One of those places where transcendance is taught?
If one considers the boundary of self to be a surface, then like a pond we have to learn to see past what is reflected to what is beyond. I sit here on my verandah and see the trees reflected in the window glass, yet I can look past to see the curtains.
That sets up a relationship basis where there is an emotional exchange between me and the other awareness. The awareness is generally really happy that someone can provide a solution to their predicament and at the same time having a bit of a breakdown because the suffering will finally end.
. . . . and "folk" and "neighbors" is nice and friendly. Our choise our words will often set us up and we perceive accordingly.
occupying a position at, or on both sides of, a boundary or threshold.
relating to a transitional or initial stage of a process.
Now.. the real challenge.. can you take all that stuff.. and make it do something in
the real world.
Until you or I or any of us do that,
even if it were perfectly true..
originally posted by: AdKiller
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear
You are as offensive as a speaker who attributes communication and mobility as the defining characteristics of a sentient person, before noticing the non-communicative handicap who was wheeled into the auditorium for the pure joy of human company.
If the Ancients knew the secrets of creating life and grew living machines,
Where do the machines go when they die?
I see you cited the adjective form of liminal where its definition is that of a physical/spacial state of occupying both sides of a boundary.