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Trump supporters ARE NOW THE ESTABLISHMENT!

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posted on Feb, 12 2018 @ 12:42 AM
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originally posted by: The GUT

originally posted by: HorizonFall
If that were the case then why would the established media be in full smear mode ever since the primaries? They don't go after their own horses...


Great question and analysis, H. 👍

If OP could look past his epic cognitive dissonance and ask himself that question while truly seeking an honest answer he would stop being stupendously clueless. 💡






The answer is simple, it's all a show, it's a simple way to keep the majority of people looking in the wrong direction and arguing about stuff that really doesn't matter.

This way people cannot unite and work together to solve issues that really matter, like education, health, rising costs, failing infrastructure, government corruption, corporate monopolies etc etc etc.




posted on Feb, 12 2018 @ 06:26 AM
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a reply to: intrptr

No, they were not THE culprit.

They were the tool THE culprit used.

And from what I've seen, a rather willing tool at that.



posted on Feb, 12 2018 @ 07:08 AM
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originally posted by: poncho1982
a reply to: intrptr

No, they were not THE culprit.

They were the tool THE culprit used.

And from what I've seen, a rather willing tool at that.

They better be.



posted on Feb, 12 2018 @ 09:19 AM
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originally posted by: RomeByFire
Marxist, CNN viewer, obsessed with Trump, whining liberal, Trump derangement syndrome, you guys forgot about anti-American, Antifa, and Comrade as well



Well if the shoe fits.....



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 01:38 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Hillary Supporters are now the ISIS of America!
edit on 13-2-2018 by thepixelpusher because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 03:17 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Coming from the anti-corpratist revolutionaries who parrot every corporate HR department, I'm not inclined to worry about your opinion.



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 09:17 AM
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originally posted by: jacobe001

originally posted by: diggindirt

originally posted by: Ursushorribilis
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

There are legitimately honest and fair criticisms of Trump. Like him pardoning a bank he owes millions to.


Got a link to back up that claim? I've heard it a lot but nobody has put up any info that would confirm it.

Are you speaking of this? www.usatoday.com...




NEW YORK — Five banks, including a big lender to President Donald Trump, have received temporary reprieves from the administration to run businesses that they otherwise would have had to shut down after criminal convictions.

The Labor Department granted Deutsche Bank a waiver from punishment allowing it to continue to manage pension funds and individual retirement accounts for another three years, according to an announcement in the Federal Registry soon after the decision last month. Four other banks convicted in criminal cases were also granted waivers.





The Labor Department said Wednesday that Deutsche Bank got no special deal, and noted that the Obama administration had originally proposed a more valuable waiver lasting five years, instead of the three ultimately granted.

“Any insinuation of special treatment is counter to these facts,” said department spokesman Jeffrey Grappone.

The Labor Department waivers stem from the criminal convictions over the manipulation of the London Interbank Loan Rate, or Libor, a measure used to set lending rates for a variety of financial transactions. In 2015, units of Deutsche Bank, JP Morgan Chase, Barclays Capital, UBS Asset Management and Citigroup agreed to a deferred prosecution by which they could avoid certain punishments.


So where is the "pardon"?
The Obama administration had proposed five years for the waiver and Trump's people cut to three. How is that better for the bank? Would you rather force the bank to close those pension and retirement plans without notice? Why do you wish to punish people who had nothing to do with the crimes committed by the bank's administration?

Perhaps you have a link about a different "pardon"?



There are 20 bankers for every politician infesting DC.
The Bankers are part of the establishment.

Trump has done nothing about them.
What would you like Trump to do about the bankers? From my view he is doing what he can do as a President. He cannot wave a magic wand and make bankers go away. Maybe you were thinking he could as some dictator since everyone accusing him of that.



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 09:31 AM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

This is what confuses me.

Trump isn't acting like a dictator.
He is being called a dictator by those on the left.
To appease the left, the left wants Trump to act like a dictator.


My only conclusion?

The left wants a dictatorship and not a representative republic.



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 09:36 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Two Sides Of The Same Coin... But your point is quite valid about the ATS membership, I just take a look at the Top or New Threads page and swiftly move on. It's mind boggling how blinkered the membership has become.

The "Deny Ignorance" seems to have been forgotten.



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 09:39 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

May I suggest you study the history books... I'll even point you in the right direction, Germany 1936. Now please compare.

DENY IGNORANCE



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 09:43 AM
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originally posted by: DreamerOracle
a reply to: DBCowboy

May I suggest you study the history books... I'll even point you in the right direction, Germany 1936. Now please compare.

DENY IGNORANCE



Thank you,


But I've seen what leftists want.

Might want to catch up on Stalin.

(deny ignorance)




posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 09:52 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

You may wish to validate your outlook on the Political Spectrum... Stalin wasn't a Leftists.

Deny Ignorance

Stalinism/Soviet Communism being in fact, State Capitalism...
He may have started on the left and used the left for class war but when the dust settled he was firmly seated on the Right.



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 10:01 AM
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originally posted by: DreamerOracle
a reply to: DBCowboy

You may wish to validate your outlook on the Political Spectrum... Stalin wasn't a Leftists.

Deny Ignorance

Stalinism/Soviet Communism being in fact, State Capitalism...
He may have started on the left and used the left for class war but when the dust settled he was firmly seated on the Right.




I love what you folks do with definitions.

Making Communism and Marxism something grand that was "corrupted" by capitalism.

You're funny.




posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 10:07 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Yes indeed "funny" at that point I move on... prime example.



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 10:24 AM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

That’s such a cop out....

“It doesn’t matter what one side of the other does, they are all the same...”

It’s a bs excuse not to pick sides, make decisions or take a stand..

Fall in where you will, but pretending like it doesn’t matter is lazy and inaccurate..

I’m sure the German people said the same about the nazis..

“No use standing up.. both political sides are the same..”



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 10:34 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Why not compare it to all the super successful socialist countries???

In fact, has ANY socialist or communist country failed that we haven’t sanctioned to the gills for the unthinkable crime of “all the plumbers make the same thing?”


All the Nordic countries are socialist. we don’t sanction them and they have the best healthcare, lowest poverty and crime on the planet..

Nazi germany went socialist and became the worlds biggest economy and military OVER NIGHT..

My personal opinion is that modern society requires a mix..

The things society “can’t afford to get wrong” you do Public so the profit doesn’t impede the objectives..


The things you can afford to get wrong you do private..


The rhetoric is just laughable though.. as if EVERY society in history hasn’t been ATLEAST half socialist....



Period we get to a point one day where human labor is irrelevant.. how the hell did you do capitalism then?!?!

What do you do when in everycase automation is cheaper???


Socialism is the end result reguardless..



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 10:36 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

How original... and par for the course conservatism..


Make a straw man out of a monster and pretend they represent everyone less conservative than Sean hannity..


That logical fallacy even has its own funny little Latin name that escapes me..



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 10:41 AM
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THIS Trump voter was hoping he cast a vote against the Establishment, when voting for Trump. Hillary was actually CAUGHT rigging the DNC primary, and yet even after this, was still on the ballot. It wasn't emails, it wasn't Benghazi, etc. (all bad enough), but just this blatant, in your face corruption...that most of us just could not vote for.

An apparent neurological condition that is still hush hush, didn't help matters much either....nor did the blatant use of a double right after the collapse to say "see? she's OK folks!". Would have been better to not appear in public at all. (yeah, I know how it sounds, but I'm a portrait artist, trained to look at faces...I can also easily see through years and disguises, and I'm telling you there were over a dozen different points of reference there between the double and HRC, in addition to obvious age and weight differences). - I've got a thread on it somewhere around here, and as skeptical as my wife is (rolling her eyes at all of it), even she had to admit that yep, no way was it her. Kind of an eye opener for her too.

But, that all aside....the day the GOP leaders met with Trump and did a complete 180 on finally supporting him (the death of the No to Trump movement), something happened. They showed him something, or somehow threatened him to at least play ball.

I don't know what or how, but that is obviously when things changed (and it was just before the election). It's only now visible in hindsight.

Still a better choice (for anti-establishment) than HRC, as he will definitely do some things that tick off the powers that be....but there is certainly an element of them reigning him in too. That's probably the scariest part of it all...that just when we thought we had put some brakes to the NWO...it seems we're just tapping them instead.



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 10:43 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

And every one depends heavily on .....

wait for it .....

Capitalism !!

How else can they get the money for their "agendas" ?

😀😁😂😃




posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 10:43 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

He is bashing any media that doesn’t agree with him.. even proposing pulling their fcc licenses and such.. that’s dictator 101...


He is bashing the fbi and cia for investigating him, even firing FBI heads and such when they won’t stop investigating him because he told them to... strike two..


Wants to start military parades.. that has been almost a soley dictator move.. I think literally France might be the only western country who does that..

EVERY DICTATORSHIP HAS THOUGH..


How many nazi, North Korean and Russian military parades have we all seen video of..

All goose stepping and such..


Tried to pretend the elections were all rigged..


Falsely accuses his political opponents of felonies..



Lies constantly.. sometime within the same speech..

Demogoges constantly..



I don’t think trump becomes a dictator.. he only has like 25% support of the American people.. and of that 25% ya gotta think “he pisses off the left” will not be good enough forever..




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