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So now there is no credibility that Russia hacked our election. AT ALL. NONE.

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posted on Feb, 7 2018 @ 05:55 PM
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originally posted by: knoxie
a reply to: shooterbrody


you're an idiot if you think the only thing russians are capable of are buying facebook ads. LOLOLOLOLOL

guess you won't answer the question, tho, will you? what a puss.

this has NOTHING to do with capability bub
this has to do with PROOF
the ONLY proof of RuSsIA BoGeYmAn is social media bullcrap ads
unless you can source something else, puss

"a russki attack on our grid" ahahahahaha
spoiler alert: nothing under your bed knoxie




posted on Feb, 7 2018 @ 06:05 PM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: knoxie
a reply to: shooterbrody


you're an idiot if you think the only thing russians are capable of are buying facebook ads. LOLOLOLOLOL

guess you won't answer the question, tho, will you? what a puss.

this has NOTHING to do with capability bub
this has to do with PROOF
the ONLY proof of RuSsIA BoGeYmAn is social media bullcrap ads
unless you can source something else, puss

"a russki attack on our grid" ahahahahaha
spoiler alert: nothing under your bed knoxie



It's hilarious that since they didn't get their expected outcome they don't even believe their hero!



posted on Feb, 7 2018 @ 06:30 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme
FBI Director Comey: Agency requested access to DNC servers

Comey said there were “multiple requests at different levels” for access to the Democratic servers. They were never given access to the server.
edit on 7-2-2018 by SouthernForkway26 because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 7 2018 @ 06:49 PM
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originally posted by: Lucidparadox

originally posted by: xstealth
What's the difference between the Steele dossier and the "hacked" DNC server?

Nothing.

The DNC conveniently REFUSED to turn over the hacked server to the FBI for the FBI to investigate, instead, they gave it to CrowdStrike a Democrat linked company to examine. CrowdStrike declared that Russia hacked the server, a few more "independent companies" confirmed it and guess what.

THE FBI TOOK THE DNC'S WORD AS FACT.

So where the hell is the evidence of Russian hacking in our election? What has the FBI actually examined themselves?

NOTHING, THEY TOOK THE DNC's WORD.

Well watch this, Crowdstrike will end the Russian collusion narrative once and for all.


Ugh

Youre so frustrating

It makes sense if you actually THINK about it. Why would you hand it over to the FBI? The emails and content on the server are private.. not only that but its possible they could contain other things they have legal implications against the owners of the server or private information they wouldnt want leaked about people (innocent things.. but things that need to remain private). If they give it to the FBI to look at the FBI has an obligation to take action on other things they find. If they use a.third party they trust to investigate it.... its much more likely whats private will remain private.




Wait... if you actually THINK about it, it makes no sense at all.

The FBI had the legal claim to that data, the only reason Clinton got away with sending it to a third party was because the FBI OKAYED IT. Secondly; they flat out destroyed evidence, bleachbit? Do you not remember this? Third, that third party wasn't a third party at all, they were all democrats and flying in the same circle. I.E. Accomplices who lied about their findings.

It's much more likely that when you're guilty, you destroy evidence and circumvent turning any in in anyway that you possibly can, and that's exactly what they did.

NOW, it's coming out that the FBI has been secretly working with the DNC the whole time, and you don't realize that's the reason the FBI allowed them to use a third party?

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah; put your thinking cap on before you talk about what makes sense when you "think" about it.



posted on Feb, 7 2018 @ 08:47 PM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: knoxie
a reply to: shooterbrody


you're an idiot if you think the only thing russians are capable of are buying facebook ads. LOLOLOLOLOL

guess you won't answer the question, tho, will you? what a puss.

this has NOTHING to do with capability bub
this has to do with PROOF
the ONLY proof of RuSsIA BoGeYmAn is social media bullcrap ads
unless you can source something else, puss

"a russki attack on our grid" ahahahahaha
spoiler alert: nothing under your bed knoxie



Obama himself said the election couldn't be hacked. I guess Knoxie should have been President instead. He/She/Xe/It knows better than a president with full access to the intelligence arm.



posted on Feb, 7 2018 @ 09:39 PM
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In my opinion it is not unreasonable to think Russia could have meddled in the last election. Russia openly campaigned for trump on the world stage and repeatedly bad mouthed Hilary with much conspiratorial talk about her and her team. All the same alex Jones talking points constantly pushed on here by trumpsters, allegations I might add that hold as much weight and evidence as does the Russian collusion and racist/sexist trump allegations. There is smoke on both sides and I think we should all agree they are all a bunch of crooks!

ATS motto is deny ignorance but too many members are buying to the partisanship and propoganda on both sides hook, line and sinker. Too many people are buying into the hate and fear mongering and forgetting about rational thought and empathy. The right is the yin and the left is the yang somewhere in the middle is where we must meet or we are going to end up in a civil war.
edit on 7-2-2018 by conspiracy nut because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 7 2018 @ 10:24 PM
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originally posted by: Taggart
You sure about no proof

nyp.st...

Welp


Here is a tweet from the CO-Founder of CrowdStrike:
twitter.com...

He said the woman you're getting your information from is an excellent choice for the job.

Interesting, it's almost like they all know each other pretty well.
edit on 7/2/18 by xstealth because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 7 2018 @ 11:33 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: xstealth

Who hacked the DNC to get those e-mails to Wiki-leaks?



Why does it have to be a hack?... There is a reason Wikileaks



posted on Feb, 7 2018 @ 11:35 PM
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a reply to: xstealth

To bad the Dutch intelligence have VIDEO of the Russians doing the very hacking Crowdstrike observed and reported.



posted on Feb, 7 2018 @ 11:41 PM
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a reply to: xstealth



Well , if Mr. Putin says so , it Must be True............)




posted on Feb, 7 2018 @ 11:48 PM
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originally posted by: conspiracy nut
In my opinion it is not unreasonable to think Russia could have meddled in the last election.
...


It is unreasonable when there is no proof of this. Just because Putin spoke highly of Trump doesn't mean they meddled in our elections... More so when Clinton bashed the Russian government, meanwhile they were having deals under the table. Are you going to claim the British government meddled with our elections because they spoke unfavorably of Trump before and after the elections.

British government cancels plan for Trump to address Parliament

Heck, Steele was a former British spy, is that reason enough to claim that Britain influenced our elections?


edit on 7-2-2018 by ElectricUniverse because: add and correct comment.



posted on Feb, 7 2018 @ 11:52 PM
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originally posted by: DanteGaland
a reply to: xstealth

To bad the Dutch intelligence have VIDEO of the Russians doing the very hacking Crowdstrike observed and reported.


Care to provide that video?... Not to mention, Crowdstrike made a fake report stating the same Russian hackers who hacked the DNC also hacked Ukraine and destroyed most of Ukraine's artillery units. The Ukrainian government and the other sources that Crowdstrike mentioned stated that there was no such hack and that Crowdstrike made the whole thing up...


edit on 7-2-2018 by ElectricUniverse because: correct comment.



posted on Feb, 7 2018 @ 11:59 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

Right, because when you engage in a covert operation to manipulate the election of another country you would obviously leave as much evidence as possible so the targeted nation knows you did it.

21 states were targeted..


While not all of them responded immediately, those that said they were targeted were Alabama, Arizona, Colorado, Connecticut, Illinois, Iowa, Maryland, Minnesota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Washington and Wisconsin.


Funny, considering this..


Trump won the three perennial swing states of Florida, Ohio, and Iowa, as well as the three "blue wall" stronghold states of Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin


So the article says


a total of 21 states were targeted and “an exceptionally small number of them were actually successfully penetrated.”


Whats a small number? 6 maybe?

3?

Coincidentally..


Trump won 18 states by fewer than 250,000 votes

The most important states, though, were Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. [/B] Trump won those states by 0.2, 0.7 and 0.8 percentage points, respectively — and by 10,704, 46,765 and 22,177 votes. Those three wins gave him 46 electoral votes; if Clinton had done one point better in each state, she'd have won the electoral vote, too

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.




So states targeted by the Russians, just happen to include the three states that won him the election by exceptionally small margins

But hey, whatever right?

It's just not possible that the evidence you require either hasn't been released/leaked yet or, and here's a shocker, it's being intentionally concealed from the public.

Honestly Grambler, you're one of the most level headed and insightful people on here and none of that seems questionable to you?

I hate to ask, but do you even conspiracy bro?

Oh, and the Dutch thing
ars technica

edit on 8-2-2018 by Thorneblood because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 8 2018 @ 12:06 AM
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a reply to: EternalShadow

yes i recall hillie thump war drums pretty hard if she got us in war with russia that would have been it for humanity.



posted on Feb, 8 2018 @ 12:15 AM
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a reply to: knoxie

what cyberwarefare ? the dnc is aPRIVATE ORGANIZATION NOT A GOVERNMENT ONE so if anybody hacked them and aired their dirty laundry at worst it was a criminal act but there is no evidence they were hacked because they refused to give the servers over to fbi forensics team.



posted on Feb, 8 2018 @ 12:23 AM
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a reply to: xstealth

Dude no one hacked crap. Abassador Murrey already said he hand delivered the DNC emails by a thumb drive in DC to Julian Assange in the UK. Dumbocrats and the FBI pretends like this guy don't exist and they banned him from returning to the USA so he can't testify in congress.



posted on Feb, 8 2018 @ 12:25 AM
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a reply to: Thorneblood

U know u can not tell who is the hacker because they can mask IP addresses. Do u really think people don't do it?



posted on Feb, 8 2018 @ 01:00 AM
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Russians meddle in elections all the time, #... so does the US.

Isn't this a conspiracy website? Whats with the sudden trust of governments?



posted on Feb, 8 2018 @ 01:22 AM
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a reply to: Thorneblood

Ironiclly the Dutch thing and the,entire story that the Russians hacked the dnc is based on the fact that the Russians used ip adresses and signatures that were known to be Russian.

So you can't have it both ways, either the Russians were so dumb they basically signed their names on the hacks of the dnc,

Or they are so smart they hacked voter rolls and changed votes and our government couldn't e.g. figure it out.

And as someone who clearly conspiracies bro, I am surprised you haven't been using this same argument to discredit the Russian dnc hack for months now.



posted on Feb, 8 2018 @ 02:58 AM
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Media/FBI/CIA lost all credibility after lying about JFK, 9-11, weapons of mass destruction, h1n1, etc...

They are the most organized criminals in the world.

They know their massive pedophile/crime ring is about to go up in flames.



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