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Clinton advisor says Page giving speech on russian campus makes him russian agent worthy of spying

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posted on Feb, 5 2018 @ 10:04 PM
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The clinton advisor is richard goodstein. I am have seen him on Tucker and other shows often, and although I disagree with him usually, he always seemed competent and intelligent.

Tonight I noticed a change in the narrative around Carter Page.

He says Trump shouldnt have hired a russian agent. Tucker asks how he knows Page is a russian agent, and he says because page gave an anti American speech at a russian University.

This is insanity. He is not saying page is guilty and should have been surveilled because he may have done something illegal.

Nope he thinks because page was looked at in 2013 (he doesnt mention Page actually was not accused of wrong doing and helped the fbi) and he said things he didnt like about America.

DO anyone see how insane this is?

I know this is just my opinion, but as someone that has seen this guy, it seems like he is really changing his stance on Page. Now its not he offered a quid pro quo for 19% of roseneft to remove sanctions, its just he said bad things, so he should have been spied on.

Notice how he doesnt answer at all what he will think if Page is found innocent.

I just thought the video was an interesting look at how the excuses for why the FBI should spy on americians and trumps team seem to be shifting more and more, to now just giving a speech on a russian university is now reason enough.




posted on Feb, 5 2018 @ 10:28 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

I would be careful to come to any conclusions right at the moment.

Well, we could safely assume anyone still with The Clinton's is insane,
so there is that.

So, then anything The Clinton's are putting out is suspect, no?

ETA: On Carter Page he was on Laura Ingrahm tonight, he outright
denied ever meeting this Russian person mentioned.

Now think about why would Carter Page go on Fox and deny this
outright if he was in danger of perjuring himself?

But to note importantly, Page has not been charged either.


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posted on Feb, 5 2018 @ 10:35 PM
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originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: Grambler

I would be careful to come to any conclusions right at the moment.

Well, we could safely assume anyone still with The Clinton's is insane,
so there is that.

So, then anything The Clinton's are putting out is suspect, no?



I am not jumping to conclusions. The republican memo may be entirely lies, and until I see the intel behind it i will not take it as gospel.

Having said that, there are some things we can hash out that arent really being contested.

The warrant on page was through title 1, and so the fbi had to provide evidence that he was likely a foreign agent working against the FBI.

The outrageous claims by Goodstein on this video, smearing Page for giving what he calls anti american speeches on a russian university, are disgusting.

I have seen no evidence in the dossier or elsewhere to suggest Page was a foreign agent, or even close to it.



posted on Feb, 5 2018 @ 10:43 PM
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So what does he have to say about Bill's speeches in Russia?



posted on Feb, 5 2018 @ 10:46 PM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
So what does he have to say about Bill's speeches in Russia?


Exactly. Keep in mind that Pages speech was public, but Bills wasnt. Bill got a cool half a million for that speech to.

But I am sure this stooge has no problem with that.



posted on Feb, 5 2018 @ 10:53 PM
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a reply to: Grambler




The warrant on page was through title 1, and so the fbi had to provide evidence that he was likely a foreign agent working against the FBI.

The outrageous claims by Goodstein on this video, smearing Page for giving what he calls anti american speeches on a russian university, are disgusting.


Yes, I agree 100% with that assessment, and Page has always denied
meeting Sechin. Here is a some content from Laura's show tonight.



Carter Page on on his Russia connections:

"I've never met [Igor] Sechin in my life." fxn.ws... @IngrahamAngle



twitter.com...

Let me clarify what I said about coming to conclusions,
someone put out a rumor today that Page was previously
and FBI Undercover employee.



posted on Feb, 5 2018 @ 10:54 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

Why in the world would the Russians wanna pay Bill a half a million dollars for a speech?

Must've been one hell of a speech.



posted on Feb, 5 2018 @ 11:23 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

Ah, I see that someone started a thread on this about Page
having been FBI undercover. Reading now.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Now it is extra interesting that Clinton went into attack mode
on Page today. Hmmmm



posted on Feb, 5 2018 @ 11:26 PM
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originally posted by: burntheships

Now it is extra interesting that Clinton went into attack mode
on Page today. Hmmmm



Oh do tell, BTS, I missed that.

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posted on Feb, 5 2018 @ 11:29 PM
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Didn't Bill get paid to speak to some Russian banks? Is Bill a foreign agent? Let's get a FISA warrant and just see what we can dig up...


ETA: should've read the thread. GUT and mata beat me to it!
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posted on Feb, 5 2018 @ 11:37 PM
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he always seemed competent and intelligent.

Really ? The Cheshire Cat ? Always got the grin on , no matter how grim the subject ?



posted on Feb, 5 2018 @ 11:43 PM
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a reply to: The GUT

Ok, well I just posted over there my findings.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I am now very very intrigued.

I still have not come to absolute conclusion that Page was
indeed the agent in that case, but he sure fits by a mile wide
assessment.


As to Clinton's everything they are doing is suspect, so this
must be taken into account that they are attacking Page.

Be patient folks, they may try and throw people off.



posted on Feb, 5 2018 @ 11:55 PM
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a reply to: The GUT

To clarify, I do not think Page is/was a Russian agent.

That would be on the level of a Psy Op to have him on
Laura Ingraham and he flat out denies he ever met Sechin.



posted on Feb, 6 2018 @ 12:40 AM
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a reply to: burntheships

His background as you fleshed out suggests he might still be Naval Intelligence w/ business cover. He may have got caught up and used in the set up unknowingly and can't break his cover to totally straighten this all out.

Certainly seems to be some kind of sleight of hand surrounding him beyond his abuse and use in the FISA set-up.



posted on Feb, 6 2018 @ 11:09 AM
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a reply to: The GUT

Yes, he sseemed a tad bit coy I must admit.

Certainly as if there is something he can not say outright.





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