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*FISA warrant should it be released? and what about a second special counsel?*
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Presidents attorneys have addressed this and said yes to a second special counsel.
FISA: That document along with any other that the House Intelligence Committee chooses to vote out of its committee through its process and all the House procedures, we would entertain like anything else.
Republican leaders are acknowledging that the FBI disclosed the political origins of a private dossier the bureau cited in an application to surveil former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, undermining a controversial GOP memo released Friday and fueling Democratic demands to declassify more information about the bureau’s actions.
House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes said Monday that the FBI had disclosed possible political backing for a Trump-Russia dossier in October 2016, but a controversial GOP memo released last week did not mention it.
Judge disputed pundits who claimed the FISA court has a threshold when it comes to allowing surveillance. Napolitano called the court a "rubber stamp".
The FISA court grants 99%+ of all requests for warrants and only hears from one side of each case, the governments. As a result, its proceedings have been plagued by falsehoods. In 2002, The FISA court complained that FBI agents made more than 75 false or misleading claims to secure warrants; a top FBI counterrorism official was prohibited from ever appearing there again.
originally posted by: iwanttobelieve70
Do you know how hard it is to find someone to prosecute law enforcement? And even if you find a prosecutor willing to prosecute their brothers di you know how hard it will be to get a conviction?
originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Grambler
And it seems like the judges knew this as even nunes has stated. Which directly contradicts his memo.
originally posted by: Grambler
originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Grambler
And it seems like the judges knew this as even nunes has stated. Which directly contradicts his memo.
No no one has alleged that the court knew hillary paid for this dossier.
They said a footnote said it was connected to a political entity.
Why would they not mention Hillarys teeam or the DNC?
And even aside from that, there is still the problem of the fbi presenting the info as if it was verified when several top feds are suppoded to have said it was only minimally so.
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: Grambler
originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Grambler
And it seems like the judges knew this as even nunes has stated. Which directly contradicts his memo.
No no one has alleged that the court knew hillary paid for this dossier.
They said a footnote said it was connected to a political entity.
Why would they not mention Hillarys teeam or the DNC?
And even aside from that, there is still the problem of the fbi presenting the info as if it was verified when several top feds are suppoded to have said it was only minimally so.
No Nunes said it was a footnote.
That alone contradicts the memo.
We actually have no idea so stop projecting the FBI didn't inform the FISA court.
The FISA courts are incredibly easy to obtan warrants and violate the 4th.
originally posted by: tiredoflooking
a reply to: luthier
OK... but never before has the public had a behind the scenes look at what exactly goes on. You have judges in your comment above quoted making complaints about FBI methods. This is just a big eye opener for the public, behind the scenes, if you will.
originally posted by: Grambler
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: Grambler
originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Grambler
And it seems like the judges knew this as even nunes has stated. Which directly contradicts his memo.
No no one has alleged that the court knew hillary paid for this dossier.
They said a footnote said it was connected to a political entity.
Why would they not mention Hillarys teeam or the DNC?
And even aside from that, there is still the problem of the fbi presenting the info as if it was verified when several top feds are suppoded to have said it was only minimally so.
No Nunes said it was a footnote.
That alone contradicts the memo.
We actually have no idea so stop projecting the FBI didn't inform the FISA court.
The FISA courts are incredibly easy to obtan warrants and violate the 4th.
I find your stance to be hilarious.
You are against the fisa court, so vehemently downplay calling out the abuse in the current situation.
I do have an idea, I siad that no one has claimed since the release of the memo that has seen it that the fbi mehtioned the dnc or Hillarys team paying for it.
Pl;ease link me to that claim.
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: Grambler
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: Grambler
originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Grambler
And it seems like the judges knew this as even nunes has stated. Which directly contradicts his memo.
No no one has alleged that the court knew hillary paid for this dossier.
They said a footnote said it was connected to a political entity.
Why would they not mention Hillarys teeam or the DNC?
And even aside from that, there is still the problem of the fbi presenting the info as if it was verified when several top feds are suppoded to have said it was only minimally so.
No Nunes said it was a footnote.
That alone contradicts the memo.
We actually have no idea so stop projecting the FBI didn't inform the FISA court.
The FISA courts are incredibly easy to obtan warrants and violate the 4th.
I find your stance to be hilarious.
You are against the fisa court, so vehemently downplay calling out the abuse in the current situation.
I do have an idea, I siad that no one has claimed since the release of the memo that has seen it that the fbi mehtioned the dnc or Hillarys team paying for it.
Pl;ease link me to that claim.
I likewise find it amusing that you completely bought in and trust Devin nunes who has railed against those trying to stop spying for years.
Yeah its a problem. It should be made public.
With evidence.
Any realistic person not completely blinded with Co formation bias would want evidence.
Actual proof not liars words.
originally posted by: Grambler
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: Grambler
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: Grambler
originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Grambler
And it seems like the judges knew this as even nunes has stated. Which directly contradicts his memo.
No no one has alleged that the court knew hillary paid for this dossier.
They said a footnote said it was connected to a political entity.
Why would they not mention Hillarys teeam or the DNC?
And even aside from that, there is still the problem of the fbi presenting the info as if it was verified when several top feds are suppoded to have said it was only minimally so.
No Nunes said it was a footnote.
That alone contradicts the memo.
We actually have no idea so stop projecting the FBI didn't inform the FISA court.
The FISA courts are incredibly easy to obtan warrants and violate the 4th.
I find your stance to be hilarious.
You are against the fisa court, so vehemently downplay calling out the abuse in the current situation.
I do have an idea, I siad that no one has claimed since the release of the memo that has seen it that the fbi mehtioned the dnc or Hillarys team paying for it.
Pl;ease link me to that claim.
I likewise find it amusing that you completely bought in and trust Devin nunes who has railed against those trying to stop spying for years.
Yeah its a problem. It should be made public.
With evidence.
Any realistic person not completely blinded with Co formation bias would want evidence.
Actual proof not liars words.
I have said repeatedly that untol the underlying evidnce is released, I do not take his or anyones word.
I am discussing if this is true, it is a big deal, to a lot of people saying that evn if true its not a big deal.
It seems you are saying so what, this is a non story because Fisa is bad.
If thats not what your saying I apologize, but thats how it seems.
originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: tiredoflooking
It's a public debated process. The fisa amendment bills are on record.
Nunes and gowdy both voted three weeks ago to expand fisa while having this memo ready to go.