A male backlash against #MeToo is brewing

a reply to: Painterz

To accuse someone of sexual harassment in 1982 based on the social norms of today is pretty reprehensible.

That said, the #metoo movement has been a breath of fresh air for the most part.

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
I don't, and never have, had private meetings with females. Common sense has dictated otherwise for the entirety of my life.

Up until recently, this wasn't 'common sense '.

I've dealt with women in the workforce my whole life and didn't fear this kind of thing until recently.

Very good OP.

originally posted by: Painterz

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
I don't, and never have, had private meetings with females. Common sense has dictated otherwise for the entirety of my life.

Humans no longer reproducing apparently is part of the progressive / feminist agenda.

I could actually go for some have private meetings with females.

No, humans reproducing equally outside of abusive controlling misogynist relationships is part of the progressive feminist agenda. Where women have equal power as men, and men in positions of power and authority don't get to leverage that power and authority to force women into situations they're not comfortable with.

So then human over-population isnt a major obsessionism, depopulation isnt part of the broader progressive movement?

a reply to: Painterz

Interesting wording choice, "scummy"

For those of you who are unaware look up the SCUM manifesto by Valerie Solanis scum stands for society for cutting up men (no joke)

I'm not saying this is the case but with how easy it is to fake a sexual assault from years ago. I believe it is plausible that this could be scum making moves.

originally posted by: Painterz

originally posted by: CulturalResilience
a reply to: Painterz

I speak as I find, as aposed to parroting groupthink and boilerplate.

Well then, you might want to go and talk to some actual real feminists then. Instead of the imaginary feminists you're reading about on the internet. You might find it quite enlightening.

Wouldn't see the point. I would just hear the same load of erroneous drivel that gets spouted on here.

originally posted by: Painterz
There's only a backlash growing amongst sexual predators and men who know they don't act gentlemanly and realise they're now likely to get called for sexist behaviour.

So, honestly, boo hoo, poor abusive whinging menz not finding it as easy to be abusive anymore, that they've taken to the internet to try and drum up some sort of backlash.



Any backlash against a movement by and for victims of sexual abuse is by very definition a scummy thing to do.

No justification for it really.

What is your problem?

The OP is simply asking for due process to play out. People are having their lives ruined not because they raped or harassed someone, but simply because they have made awkward passes at the wrong female.

Maybe you would see things differently if a girl you hit on while drunk during your college years ruined your political career.

a reply to: mobiusmale

This is what I gather from your thread:
"Women should shutup about being assaulted because a few bad eggs will lie about being assaulted for personal gain."

a reply to: nightbringr

when i was a kid, my step dad would not drive any of my sisters friends anywhere without her or my mom present. This was in the mid 80's.

In 2001 when I started working in call centers, the company i worked for had it as a policy that you always have a gender appropriate witness during employee meetings. That policey, IIRC, was implemented in 1997 in that particular company.

I've know four people who have been falsely accused of rape.... all four were put in jail for a short period until the facts came out exonerating them. Three of the four were college students. The fourth was next door neighbor.

In none of the cases, were the women punished or put in jail for slandering and nearly ruining lives. This is my issue.

My issue is that women are just as evil and conniving as men. All the SJW love to portray women as weak little things when it suits their agenda, but women have known the power of pootang since the beginning of time. They also know that society will default to believe any accusation a woman makes against a man.

My only beef with the movement is it seems to be shifting to more of an accusation is good enough to ruin someone, that concerns me cause well silly me I like people to actually be convicted in a court where evidence is looked at rather than a modern day attempt at recreating Salem of the 1690's.

If people are guilty by all means punish them, but lets make certain they are guilty first.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: mobiusmale

This is what I gather from your thread:
"Women should shutup about being assaulted because a few bad eggs will lie about being assaulted for personal gain."

Well, if that is your summary...what you gather...then I suggest you read it again.

This is not the point, at all, and amongst many other things women have a very strong vested interest in making sure that due process begins to come into play.

Because of equality and stuff:

To this day I think when I lost my virginity I didn't give consent. I awoke with a girl on top and ï was drunk. Very odd tbh made me feel a bit used.
But in no way could I have done anything about it I would have been laughed at.

First sexual assault briefing I went to in the military, were told that if we had not assaulted a woman by now we would in the future.

Needless to say we did not appreciate that approach, We asked the question if I get black out drunk and she has a drink did I assault her or did she assault me?

According to the USAF at that time I assaulted her... because a single drink was enough to absolve her of any decision making, they eventually changed things to a more balanced briefing.

this me to thing reminds me a lot of that.

originally posted by: Domo1
Yeah weren't most of these idiots meeting women at hotels and whatnot? I'm not trying to pile on the victims here but the women sure could have used some common sense too. Very different than having a meeting at the office with other people around.

Not that strange in certain occupations. The interview is usually away

from offices and in the area of prospective employees. This applies to

'castings' or people who are to manage an area for business with head offices

in a completely different area.

Absolutely no way I'm bringing some girl home if I meet them at a bar now, which is actually probably a good thing.

Very wise ..... and a wise woman wouldn't accept such an invitation!!

I'm not male and would not invite a man back home unless I knew him

very well, even then I would have reservations.

I have no doubt there are tons of creepy dudes in positions of power preying on women, but ruining someone's career based on 20 year old claims seems absurd. At the same time, better late than never to protect the next batch of naive women from some of these people. Like Weinstein.

There are, I have come across some, but I have a super suspicious nature

*ruining someones career based on a 20 year old claim*

Lets put it this way .... *Live now pay later* they have got away with it for

20 years - PAYBACK TIME.

I do hope that this movement won't be completely co opted by nut jobs that think flirting is rape and that going forward women do feel comfortable reporting actual misconduct when it happens.

I do hope you're right otherwise socialising will have lost a lot of

fun.

It has nothing to do with liberals . And a backlash can't be very good. Men wanting to see women abused or harassed? Because that could be the only backlash against women empowering themselves to not be victims any longer.

Good luck with that gentlemen.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
It has nothing to do with liberals . And a backlash can't be very good. Men wanting to see women abused or harassed? Because that could be the only backlash against women empowering themselves to not be victims any longer.

Good luck with that gentlemen.

Yea right cause anyone wanting an investigation, evidence, proof... we obviously want all women to be victims.

a reply to: Sillyolme

A backlash could consist of abused and harassed men finally making public accusations of the same kind against powerful women too. Why does it have to mean the subjugation of women to you?

What a silly thought process that you have.

a reply to: mobiusmale

a) nobody is interested in protecting actual perpetrators, or creating a backlash against actual victims
b) if someone wants to allege a sexual indiscretion, they should do so within a legal forum of some kind...not on CNN, without proof.

Of course, we know when you report things to the authorities or a legal forum you'll be taken care of real good. Just ask Corey Feldman, ask Nassars victims............

Brock Turner victim: "I had forensic evidence, sober un­biased witnesses, a slurred voice mail, police at the scene. I had everything, and I was still told it was not a slam dunk,” Doe says in Glamour. “I thought, if this is what having it good looks like, what other hells are survivors living? I’m barely getting through this but I am being told I’m the lucky one, some sort of VIP.”

a reply to: mobiusmale

Or guys can always refuse to rape, molest, and sexually assault people. That would help a lot.