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The emails obtained by The Times show no evidence that Mr. Papadopoulos discussed the stolen messages with the campaign.
originally posted by: aethertek
On to pushing the next BS theory since your memo meme lost it's traction eh.
So sad!
First it was "unlawful unmasking" then the "dossier" lately the "memo" now we're on to "Papadumbass".
The FISA Warrants (there were multiple) were granted on evidence obtained from multiple sources.
Papadumbass+Dossier+SIGINT intercepts =Legal FISA Warrants
K~
originally posted by: TritonTaranis
a reply to: Grambler
Once that's done we'll really start to get into the interesting stuff as to who this secret society is that essentially owns all these politicians
Exhibit A is the book “Shattered: Inside Hillary Clinton’s Doomed Campaign,” by Jonathan Allen and Amie Parnes. In light of this week’s revelation that Hillary’s campaign funded the dirty anti-Trump “Steele” dossier, the book takes on a new significance. It reveals:
“Within 24 hours of her concession speech, [campaign chair John Podesta and manager Robby Mook] assembled her communications team at the Brooklyn headquarters to engineer the case that the election wasn’t entirely on the up-and-up. For a couple of hours, with Shake Shack containers littering the room, they went over the script they would pitch to the press and the public. Already, Russian hacking was the centerpiece of the argument.”
The plan, according to the book, was to push journalists to cover how “Russian hacking was the major unreported story of the campaign,” and it succeeded to a fare-thee-well. After the election, coverage of the Russian “collusion” story was relentless, and it helped pressure investigations and hearings on Capitol Hill and even the naming of a special counsel, which in turn has triggered virtually nonstop coverage.
A new Media Research Center study finds that, since the inauguration, major TV news networks have devoted an astonishing 1,000 minutes out of a total 5,015 minutes of Trump administration coverage discussing speculation that the Trump campaign may have colluded with Moscow in hacking Clinton campaign emails, “which means the Russia story alone has comprised almost one-fifth of all Trump news this year.” In contrast, they so far have devoted just 20 seconds to the more substantive scandal of Hillary and her husband possibly trading US uranium rights for Russian cash.
But more importantly than that, the hysteria about trump is that he colluded with russia to steal the election.
No where in the GP story is that mentioned.
In fact, the first mentioning of that we see is, you guessed it, in the dossier!
The Russians have every reason to sabotage the Democratic candidate. Her opponent, Donald Trump, is more pro-Russia than any previous presidential candidate. As far back as 2007, Trump was telling CNN that Russian President Vladimir Putin was doing a "great job." In 2013, Trump tweeted: "Do you think Putin will be going to The Miss Universe Pageant in November in Moscow - if so, will he become my new best friend?" In 2015, Trump told MSNBC that Putin was a real leader, "unlike what we have in this country," and that reports of Putin killing political opponents didn't bother him — "Well, I think our country does plenty of killing also," he said.
Trump repeatedly says he would "get along very well with" Putin. In return Putin has praised Trump as "bright and talented." Trump positively glows as he repeats reports that "Putin likes me."
The Trump-Russia links beneath the surface are even more extensive, as Franklin Foer has shown in Slate. Trump has sought and received funding from Russian investors for his business ventures, especially after most American banks stopped lending to him following his multiple bankruptcies. Trump's de facto campaign manager, Paul Manafort, was a longtime consultant to Viktor Yanukovich, the Russian-backed president of Ukraine who was overthrown in 2014. Manafort also has done multimillion-dollar business deals with Russian oligarchs.
Trump's foreign policy advisor Carter Page has his own business ties to the state-controlled Russian oil giant Gazprom. He recently delivered a speech in Moscow slamming the United States for its "hypocritical focus on ideas such as democratization" and praising Russia for a foreign policy supposedly built on "noninterference," "tolerance" and "respect." (Try telling that to Ukraine.) Another Trump foreign policy advisor, retired Army Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, flew to Moscow last year to attend a gala banquet celebrating Russia Today, the Kremlin's propaganda channel, and was seated at the head table near Putin. Flynn is a regular guest on Russia Today; he refuses to say whether he gets paid.
Mermoud has longstanding ties to Trump’s campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, who in 2010 helped pro-Russia Viktor Yanukovych refashion his image and win a presidential election in Ukraine. Manafort was brought in earlier this year to oversee the convention operations and its staffing.
Three sources at the convention also told the Guardian that they saw Philip Griffin, a long-time aide to Manafort in Kiev, working with the foreign dignitaries programme.
“After years of working in the Ukraine for Paul and others, it was surprising to run into Phil working at the convention,” one said.
Jim Lewis, a senior vice-president and programme director at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, noted that Russians had hacked into the DNC and its Republican counterpart in 2008 and 2012, but those hacks were not leaked.
“The difference this time is the leak,” he said. “We can say with some certainty that it’s Russian hacking, but we should be cautious about saying they were behind the leak.”
Direct collusion with the Trump campaign is probably not happening, Lewis said. “Let’s say you’re working with someone in the Trump campaign. How do you communicate with them? I think it’s unlikely given the practical difficulties.”
Joseph Schmitz, a foreign policy adviser to Trump, denied there was any direct relationship between the campaign and the Kremlin.
“We had to negotiate with Joseph Stalin when we had a common enemy called Hitler,” he said. “Bill Clinton went on vacation in Russia when he was a Rhodes scholar. That’s a fact. If anyone is in bed with Russia, it’s the Clintons.”
originally posted by: AMPTAH
originally posted by: TritonTaranis
a reply to: Grambler
Once that's done we'll really start to get into the interesting stuff as to who this secret society is that essentially owns all these politicians
I can give you some hints, who this secret societ is.
Hint #1) 13 of the 39 signatures on the U.S. Constitution belong to members of this "Secret Society".
Hint #2) They are organized geographically with the same borders as each and every state, aligned with political borders.
Hint #3) They planned and designed the whole of Washington D.C. buildings, roads, etc..
Hint #4) They have "Constitutions" just like the U.S. and states have "Constitutions" that lay out their law and order.
Hint #5) They have a "Grand Lodge" in every state, where all secret activities are planned.
Hint #6) Everybody knows who they are, but nobody can prove they are involved in anything but "Charities".
Hint #7) They pledge allegiance to each other and the goals of their order come first.
Hint #8) Any member revealing their secrets will have his tongue cut out, heart ripped from chest, and be disemboweled.
I could give more hints, but it wouldn't matter anyway.
They are the "untouchables" of the land.
"I think that what's troubling is how he praised Vladimir Putin," Mook said about Trump's remarks during his convention speech Thursday night. "It's troubling how last week he said NATO should not protect Eastern Europe allies."
Trump Campaign Chairman Paul Manafort and Donald Trump jr. vigorously denied any kind of collusion between Trump Sr. and the Russian president.
Donald Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort said Sunday morning that suggestions the Manhattan billionaire colluded with Russian President Vladimir Putin in the hack of Democratic National Committee emails were baseless.
“No,” Manafort said on ABC’s “This Week," when asked if the campaign had ties to Putin.
He added: “It’s absurd. There’s no basis for it.”
Donald Trump's schadenfreude in the DNC's embarrassing email leak is standard practice in America's messy electoral politics. Today, though, his casual request that Russian hackers dig up Hillary Clinton's emails—sent while she was U.S. Secretary of State—for his own political gain has sparked a new level of outrage among cybersecurity experts.
As the controversy continues to swirl around a likely-Russian hack of the Democratic National Committee, Trump responded to a reporter's question at a press conference Wednesday by inviting Russia to do him another favor: collect and leak the emails that Clinton deleted from the private server she ran during her time as Secretary of State. "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. I think you'll be rewarded mightily by our press," he said. He later circled back to the same theme, telling reporters that "If Russia or China or any other country has those emails, to be honest with you, I’d love to see them."
Page is not the only Trump adviser who has been scrutinized for his friendliness toward Russia. Paul Manafort, Trump’s campaign manager, has extensive ties to Russian interests. Retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, a former Defense Intelligence Agency chief who favors closer U.S.-Russia relations, is also advising Trump on foreign policy.
Flynn has emerged as a possible vice presidential pick for Trump, Politico reported Friday.
Fox News contributor George Will says GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump will not release his tax returns because they may show "he is deeply involved in dealing with Russia oligarchs."
Not since the beginning of the Cold War has a U.S. politician been as fervently pro-Russian as Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump.
In early June, a little-known adviser to Donald Trump stunned a gathering of high-powered Washington foreign policy experts meeting with the visiting prime minister of India, going off topic with effusive praise for Russian President Vladimir Putin and Trump.
The adviser, Carter Page, hailed Putin as stronger and more reliable than President Obama, according to three people who were present at the closed-door meeting at Blair House — and then touted the positive effect a Trump presidency would have on U.S.-Russia relations.
A month later, Page dumbfounded foreign policy experts again by giving another speech harshly critical of U.S. policy — this time in Moscow.
Donald Trump has said that he would "get along very well" with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
The feeling is apparently mutual.
Putin offered high praise for the billionaire businessman-turned-Republican presidential front-runner on Thursday during an annual news conference with reporters.
"He is a bright and talented person without any doubt," Putin said, adding that Trump is "an outstanding and talented personality."
And in remarks closely mirroring Trump's assessment of the campaign, the Russian leader called Trump "the absolute leader of the presidential race," according to the Russian TASS news agency.
originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: theantediluvian
But again, none of this has anything to do with GP, and the talk of an investigation into trump about russia collusion wasnt until the dossier stories came out.
That is why Hillary supporters screamed that the fbi didnt announce and investigation of Trump before the election.
The dossier was the lynch pin for the original public outcry about the fbi investigation into trump, as the GP story wasn't even public knowledge until basically the Mueller indictment of him was released.
Again, my point is merely that the claims downplaying the memo that the GP story was the start of the investigation is irrelevant, as even your posts are showing.
But again, none of this has anything to do with GP, and the talk of an investigation into trump about russia collusion wasnt until the dossier stories came out.
U.S. intelligence officials are seeking to determine whether an American businessman identified by Donald Trump as one of his foreign policy advisers has opened up private communications with senior Russian officials — including talks about the possible lifting of economic sanctions if the Republican nominee becomes president, according to multiple sources who have been briefed on the issue.
The activities of Trump adviser Carter Page, who has extensive business interests in Russia, have been discussed with senior members of Congress during recent briefings about suspected efforts by Moscow to influence the presidential election, the sources said. After one of those briefings, Senate minority leader Harry Reid wrote FBI Director James Comey, citing reports of meetings between a Trump adviser (a reference to Page) and “high ranking sanctioned individuals” in Moscow over the summer as evidence of “significant and disturbing ties” between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin that needed to be investigated by the bureau.
A senior U.S. law enforcement official did not dispute that characterization when asked for comment by Yahoo News. “It’s on our radar screen,” said the official about Page’s contacts with Russian officials. “It’s being looked at.”
During a Monday speech to the Southwest Broward Republican Organization, Stone was asked for his “forecast” on what the “October surprise” Wikileaks founder Julian Assange had promised to reveal about Clinton may be.
“Well, it could be any number of things,” Stone said, according to video of his remarks obtained by Media Matters. “I actually have communicated with Assange. I believe the next tranche of his documents pertain to the Clinton Foundation but there’s no telling what the October surprise may be.”
Some of you will have no doubt heard of Carter Page by now. He is the Trump advisor who has been flying to Moscow to have meetings with sanctioned Russian officials. These officials that he's been meeting with are sanctioned by the US and EU over the Russia/Ukraine "dispute."
After his lecture, many journalists questioned Page over whether Donald Trump would lift the sanctions if elected President, but Page refused to answer– claiming he came to Russia as a “private person.”
But when asked by one of the journalists whether he was planning to see any “private persons” in the Kremlin, Donald Trump’s adviser said “no comment.”
However, it is known that Trump’s official met with the Deputy Prime Minister of Russia, Arkady Dvorkovich. Many Russian media sources speculated that other meetings must have taken place behind the closed doors.
It is for Donald Trump to answer about shady meetings with Russia’s government–and why his close adviser was slamming America and democracy, while praising Putin, in Russia last month, before the Russian-sponsored hack of the DNC files to hurt Hillary Clinton.