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Textron Scorpion Rejected for Next Phase of OA-X Program

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posted on Feb, 4 2018 @ 10:27 AM
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You have a limited budget and are trying for a relatively fast acquisition. Do you go for platforms that have been flying for years, that you've bought for allies,


If they really wanted a fast (and cheap) answer, then they wouldn't drag this out over a decade with one evaluation phase after another. As you state, the Texan and STucano have years of operational experience and data behind them. We already know everything there is to know about them. Why is DM hosting yet another T&E phase for aircraft we know inside and out?
It's because they don't want a fast cheap answer. They don't want answer at all. The answer they want is "nope, sorry".
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posted on Feb, 4 2018 @ 10:29 AM
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Regardless of which, it doesn't change the fact that if the program were to go ahead, the last choice you would make is a brand new aircraft. There are no customers, no supply chain, no maintenance system, etc.
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posted on Feb, 21 2018 @ 05:20 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

*IF* the program goes ahead. USAF is now saying FY 2020 at the earliest. I sense the Stingray approach is being utilized.

www.thedrive.com...



posted on Feb, 21 2018 @ 06:10 PM
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a reply to: anzha

Considering their other higher priorities, like the B-52 engines, and the E-8 recapitalization they won't be allowed to kill, I'm not surprised.



posted on Jan, 18 2019 @ 07:26 PM
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google only finds this for the thread:

Light Attack Aircraft is deeeeeead.

breakingdefense.com...



posted on Jan, 18 2019 @ 08:00 PM
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a reply to: anzha

Shocking, I say. Shocking.



posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 05:14 PM
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a reply to: RadioRobert

www.defensenews.com... craft/



posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 11:47 PM
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a reply to: anzha



Goldfein added that light attack was not something that was central to what the Air Force needed, saying that it would only be funded if the money is available in upcoming budgets.


You don't say...



originally posted by: RadioRobert
This is what happens when you want the program to fail, but you have to go through the motions...
You eliminate the contender that might actually have a chance of succeeding and showing A) the mission is worthwhile or B) that you should expend some of your budget on it. Get ready for the evaluation that shows the turboprops were unable to show a distinct advantage over existing platforms and the program isn't worth spending our money on.


Almost a full year ago...



posted on Jan, 31 2019 @ 04:53 AM
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Sooo the Bronco 2 experiment was for nothing?
Thought it went extremely well in combat..
Shades of the debacle that was the UCLASS.



posted on Jan, 31 2019 @ 05:47 AM
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a reply to: Blackfinger
Fighter Mafia strikes again. Makes you wonder why they even bother with the pretense. Also makes you wonder why the US Army isn't so sick of this sh*t that they haven't spat the dummy and demanded that the Key West agreement gets torn up.



posted on Jan, 31 2019 @ 03:32 PM
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This seems like less Fighter Mafia and more cancelling the program in the face of large acquisitions like the KC-46, B-21, F-35, and others along with with a new NDS that specifies the services will be moving toward focusing on peer-level war capabilities as opposed to what they have been focusing on the last 15-20 years. Combined with the fact that SOCOM does not want to pay for this, it’s not going to happen right now.

However, if this does happen in the future, I’d expect an armed T-X with a ball and a WSO.

The Army doesn’t want the A-10 in their hands and they’ve said that many times before. The service that would make the most sense (outside of the Air Force) to me would be the Marines. But they’re all in on the F-35, so AF CAS is what you get.



posted on Feb, 4 2019 @ 11:27 AM
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According to the Air Force, experiments will continue, but they can't go into details as they haven't briefed Congress yet, and since Congress wants to see it happen they want to stay on good terms with them.



posted on Feb, 4 2019 @ 03:34 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Interesting how they mentioned the NDS as a reason for dumping this for other things like the Eagles, but still validated the light attack requirement.



posted on Feb, 4 2019 @ 09:02 PM
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Hhhhmm wonder how many gun pods can they hang off the pylons on an F15X?



posted on Feb, 4 2019 @ 11:20 PM
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a reply to: justwanttofly

Yeah, I found that interesting as well.




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