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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
With the impending(?) release of THE memo the topic of FBI corruption has cropped up. The Right acts like the revelation of an FBI that is corrupt and acts in favor of a political candidate over another is the greatest scandal to strike US politics. The Left acts like the FBI have been paragons of morality and virtue over its storied history. And I'm sitting here thinking, "When did everyone just decide to forget that the FBI has always been corrupt?"
Even if we look at the days before it was called the FBI and was simply the Bureau of Investigation it was linked to some serious corruption issues. The most notorious of course being the Teapot Dome Scandal. While the BOI was not directly involved in the scandal itself, it was BOI Director William Burns that tried to shut down the Senate investigation into the matter. He was so disgraced by his activities that he was forced to step down from the position. His replacement was J. Edgar Hoover. The man whose name became synonymous with the FBI and is probably the most famous lawman in American history. He would head the BOI starting in 1924 and would hold that position through to its transition to the FBI and continue on until his death in 1972.
Even before 1935 though the groundwork started being laid for the FBI. While the initial job of the BOI was to crack down on prostitution, by the 1930s organized crime was the biggest issue facing the nation. To help combat this growing threat in 1932 the BOI was merged with the Bureau of Prohibition, the agency that was primarily tasked with dealing with organized crime. Now to illustrate how rampant corruption was in the Bureau of Prohibition one only needs to look at Elliot Ness and his Untouchables. Ness was a BOP agent tasked with taking down Al Capone and his operation. To aid in his mission he was told to put together a task force. After pouring over every BOP agent Ness was only able to come up with 11 agents that he was positive weren't corrupt.
Jump ahead a few years to the Hoover years. While it seemed like Hoover was man who could get things done, it turns out that he was a man that was running his own agenda. Under Hoover agents would regularly be used to target blacks, homosexuals, and liberals. In fact under Hoover the FBI has been linked to such high profile assassinations as MLK, Malcolm X, Harvey Milk, and even the Kennedys.
Shortly following Hoover's death in 1972 a certain break in occurred at the Watergate hotel. While the FBI was not involved in the actual burglary it was a former FBI agent that responsible for wiretapping and monitoring the DNC. Hoover's successor L. Patrick Gray also ended up resigning in disgrace after admitting to destroying Watergate files. Funny enough, it was an FBI agent that blew the whistle on the whole Watergate scandal, Mark Felt aka Deep Throat.
Even in the more modern era we have things like Waco and Ruby Ridge to point at for examples of FBI corruption. In fact these events inspired many to join communities like ATS. The idea of FBI corruption is so prevalent in pop culture that it became a main plot point in the X-Files. Even in the past couple of years the Right has taken issue with the FBI's shooting of LaVoy Finicum. At the same time the FBI has raised the Left's ire by creating the nebulous term Black Identity Extremist that evokes memories of Hoover.
So why are both sides arguing over the FBI's corruption when it has been a fact of the agency's life?
originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: openyourmind1262
If thats true, then all FBI agents joined to partake in corruption. They arent dumb, so they must have been motivated by the corruption they knew of.
originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Xcalibur254
I would. I guess we are looking for the right type of criminality.
The FBI has outlived its purpose. It needs another FBI to take it down and maybe another Hoover to use means that are not legal to achieve some level of order.
In this instance, today in age, the FBI is an agent of moral and societal affront. DO they do good?
Lets say: They catch a pedo ring, but if the operators are well connected they keep doing business, WHY? I thought we had badass cowboy do gooders.
Maybe they get a low level child pornography ring one day that an informant sold to them and the FBI stops them. OK. Would that be true for a major child pornography ring they were told to protect out of national security since VIPs use it?
What if that major child exploitation ring that is asking for FBI protection was the source of all the other minor ones that the FBI catches and uses to justify their "work"?
If its the criminal element we employ to achieve order then the agents of that force are criminals. Criminals tasked with creating a semblance of order.
The implications of an all powerful and entirely corrupt federal entity are repugnant. They could do so much harm that their touted "residual good" can kiss my ass. I know better.