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House Intelligence FISA memo released: What it says

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posted on Feb, 3 2018 @ 11:14 AM
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posted on Feb, 3 2018 @ 11:15 AM
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a reply to: soberbacchus

Just a tip: memes work better when they make sense. Just sayin'.

TheRedneck



posted on Feb, 3 2018 @ 11:15 AM
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originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Xcathdra

Sure the DOJ has filed a motion to dismiss the civil case.


The Justice Department argued that the claims "lack merit," and pointed to Rosenstein's December testimony before Congress that Mueller's investigation was being carried out within its set boundaries.

thehill.com...





Thanks!



In a Friday court filing, the Justice Department asked to dismiss the civil lawsuit against special counsel Robert Mueller, that claims his charges against Manafort had nothing to do with the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 campaign.


So Trumps own Justice Department is claiming in court that the Manafort charges ARE linked to Russian Meddling in 2016.

Interesting...Let's see what happens next.



posted on Feb, 3 2018 @ 11:16 AM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: soberbacchus

Just a tip: memes work better when they make sense. Just sayin'.

TheRedneck


The intended audience was not the trump-impaired.



posted on Feb, 3 2018 @ 11:17 AM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

We will.

You can also find the motion on the website.

Pretty sure the defense team at the doj is far better at practicing law than you are so...



posted on Feb, 3 2018 @ 11:18 AM
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originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Xcathdra

We will.

You can also find the motion on the website.

Pretty sure the defense team at the doj is far better at practicing law than you are so...


Any particular reason you cant be civil and always have to get a dig in?

Grow up.



posted on Feb, 3 2018 @ 11:20 AM
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originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Xcathdra

Sure the DOJ has filed a motion to dismiss the civil case.


The Justice Department argued that the claims "lack merit," and pointed to Rosenstein's December testimony before Congress that Mueller's investigation was being carried out within its set boundaries.

thehill.com...





Thanks!



In a Friday court filing, the Justice Department asked to dismiss the civil lawsuit against special counsel Robert Mueller, that claims his charges against Manafort had nothing to do with the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 campaign.


So Trumps own Justice Department is claiming in court that the Manafort charges ARE linked to Russian Meddling in 2016.

Interesting...Let's see what happens next.

Mueller's team has to make that argument. If its not linked to the 2016 election interference then Manaforts team is correct. It would be outside Mueller's jurisdiction. Given what came out in the memo Manafort's team has a few more legal arguments they can make.
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posted on Feb, 3 2018 @ 11:22 AM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: soberbacchus

and yet everyone on the left predicted Armageddon if the memo was released.
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Armageddon still coming. This is just the initial step.

Remember, the FBI constantly constructs crime scenes with all "fake elements" in order to "entrap" people they think are likely to commit the crime, and be caught. This is part of the FBI's "standard" sources and methods. That's how they caught the Mayor of Washington D.C., "Marion Barry", and arrested him for smoking coc aine. All the elements of that crime scene were constructed by the FBI. They supplied the coc aine. They sold the coc aine to Barry. They filmed him taking and smoking the coc aine. There were no other criminals involved. Just the FBI, and the Mayor. Without the FBI's involvement, there would be no crime. Yet, the FBI "viewed" themselves as good and law abiding, and the Mayor as a criminal breaking the law. See? The whole crime was "staged" by the FBI.

So, this MEMO just shows the "extent" and "reach" of this pattern of "staging" the scenarios to "entrap" their "victims", that the FBI's "sources and methods" are applied to political rivals and people they don't like, not just suspected criminals.

It just hasn't "sunk in" yet, what it all means.

We await the Democrat MEMO, to get more insight.







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posted on Feb, 3 2018 @ 11:22 AM
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So Trumps own Justice Department is claiming in court that the Manafort charges ARE linked to Russian Meddling in 2016.

No, that's not what it said. Dismissing a lawsuit can mean several things, including a decision to change the venue to criminal or a belief that the trial is not worth it due to cost or time.

Y'know, just above I apologized when I jumped to conclusions...

TheRedneck



posted on Feb, 3 2018 @ 11:25 AM
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The intended audience was not the trump-impaired.

Who's Trump-impaired? It looks to me like everyone has plenty of Trump.

TheRedneck



posted on Feb, 3 2018 @ 11:35 AM
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Fusion GPS Admits They Used John McCain to Pass Anti-Trump Dossier to Obama-Era Intel Agencies

EILAT, Israel — The founders of the controversial opposition research firm Fusion GPS admitted that they helped the researcher hired to compile the infamous, largely discredited 35-page dossier on President Donald Trump to share the document with Sen. John McCain.

The goal of providing the dossier to McCain, the Fusion GPS founders explained, was to pass the information contained in the questionable document to the U.S. intelligence community under the Obama administration.

The disclosure raises questions about whether McCain knew that the information he delivered to the intelligence community was actually an opposition document reportedly funded by the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee.

McCain’s office did not reply yesterday to a Breitbart News request for comment on the matter.

Last December, it was revealed that it was McCain who notoriously passed the controversial dossier documents produced by the Washington opposition research firm Fusion GPS to then FBI Director James Comey, whose agency reportedly utilized the dossier as a basis for its probe into alleged Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.


click link for article...



posted on Feb, 3 2018 @ 11:40 AM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: soberbacchus


The intended audience was not the trump-impaired.

Who's Trump-impaired? It looks to me like everyone has plenty of Trump.

TheRedneck


People on the left are so obsessed with Trump the man can't even eat a burger, ice cream, drink water, or feed fish without widespread media coverage and criticism.

Trump-impaired?

lol



posted on Feb, 3 2018 @ 11:49 AM
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originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Xcathdra

We will.

You can also find the motion on the website.

Pretty sure the defense team at the doj is far better at practicing law than you are so...


I think it is probably within the scope, because the wording of his appointment gives him virtual unlimited scope. The argument that Rosenstein said something probably doesn't carry much weight. The judge will look at the appointment which vests authority to Mueller and whether this falls under it. It almost certainly will.



posted on Feb, 3 2018 @ 11:51 AM
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Up until now, the story was that McCain passed the info to the Clinton campaign, right?
He was supposed to have done it during the campaign, after the primaries were over.
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posted on Feb, 3 2018 @ 11:52 AM
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originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Xcathdra

Sure the DOJ has filed a motion to dismiss the civil case.


The Justice Department argued that the claims "lack merit," and pointed to Rosenstein's December testimony before Congress that Mueller's investigation was being carried out within its set boundaries.

thehill.com...





Thanks!



In a Friday court filing, the Justice Department asked to dismiss the civil lawsuit against special counsel Robert Mueller, that claims his charges against Manafort had nothing to do with the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 campaign.


So Trumps own Justice Department is claiming in court that the Manafort charges ARE linked to Russian Meddling in 2016.

Interesting...Let's see what happens next.


Sigh, that's also not what it says. It simply says the disconnect is not cause to dismiss because the investiture of authority given to Mueller also covered anything else that arose while he was investigating. Read the appointment.



posted on Feb, 3 2018 @ 11:54 AM
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Gregg Jarrett
‏Verified account @GreggJarrett
2h2 hours ago

A 2nd source has now confirmed to me that, in a meeting on January 10, Deputy A-G Rosenstein used the power of his office to threaten to subpoena the calls & texts of the Intel Committee to get it to stop it’s investigation of DOJ and FBI. Likely an Abuse of Power & Obstruction.



posted on Feb, 3 2018 @ 11:55 AM
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originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: Xcathdra

Up until now, the story was that McCain passed the info to the Clinton campaign, right?


To the FBI.



posted on Feb, 3 2018 @ 11:56 AM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra


Gregg Jarrett
‏Verified account @GreggJarrett
2h2 hours ago

A 2nd source has now confirmed to me that, in a meeting on January 10, Deputy A-G Rosenstein used the power of his office to threaten to subpoena the calls & texts of the Intel Committee to get it to stop it’s investigation of DOJ and FBI. Likely an Abuse of Power & Obstruction.

He needs to be fired now.
But that would look terrible politically if Trump did it.
Could he be sanctioned by a judge instead?



posted on Feb, 3 2018 @ 11:59 AM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: Xcathdra

Up until now, the story was that McCain passed the info to the Clinton campaign, right?


To the FBI.

But previously, the story was that after Trump had the Republican nomination sewed up, McCain passed the info that would later become the dossier to the DNC.



posted on Feb, 3 2018 @ 12:02 PM
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It was Hillary and the DNC who sent it to J.K. Rowling and Stephen King which produced the novelty item that was used in our court system as verified intel.




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