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originally posted by: Willtell
originally posted by: Grambler
originally posted by: Willtell
This is just what we knew it would be
A defense of Trump by his defenders distorting reality
Like cutting up puzzle pieces to make them fit where they don’t belong.
Trump and everything he does is a LIE!
Trump and everything he touches is a LIE
Trump and everyone surrounding him is a LIAR
Your partisanship is unreal.
McCabe tetsified that there would have been no fisa warrant without the dossier.
That is a disgusting abuse of power. The fact that you and others have no problem with that is truly frightening.
If trump would use his FBI tp spy on his opponents based of a dossier he paid for that was known to not be corroborated, you would be screaming the loudest.
So what!
It’s a straw man argument.
Filled, I'm sure and loaded with distortions from a person who already has been caught colluding with, guess who?
Trump
originally posted by: Wayfarer
originally posted by: face23785
According to Catherine Herridge, the dossier wasn't just included, it was the top line item on the FISA application.
If that was their best evidence, they had nothing. Disgraceful. The judge they tricked has got to be furious.
Yeah, that must have been it, which would also explain how the original FISA warrant was signed years before Steele's portion of the document was included.......
originally posted by: Wayfarer
Yeah, that must have been it, which would also explain how the original FISA warrant was signed years before Steele's portion of the document was included.......
We now know the FBI took Kremlin and Hillary campaign information and used it to spy on Trump
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
History is going to be HARSH on Trump and his supporters. You should pull your head out of the ATS echo chamber every now and then. The country is PISSED at him.
originally posted by: burntheships
originally posted by: Wayfarer
Yeah, that must have been it, which would also explain how the original FISA warrant was signed years before Steele's portion of the document was included.......
Which demonstrates the failure of any agency to act in a timely manner,
The FBI had all of this information years ago, way before Trump was on the scene.
The only explanation is the Special Counsel is The Insurance Policy
that was tossed out in Andrew McCabes office.
Time will prove this, wait and see.
I am wondering whether there is a middle ground here in agreeing a full investigation via an SC is warranted... then we can all get the detail we need to get to a common conclusion. Surely all would be for that, given the seriousness of the report from the US GOVT.
originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: UKTruth
I am wondering whether there is a middle ground here in agreeing a full investigation via an SC is warranted... then we can all get the detail we need to get to a common conclusion. Surely all would be for that, given the seriousness of the report from the US GOVT.
There's no middle ground to be had.
Trumps already been convicted in the kangaroo courts of public opinion.
And all it took as a $1,000,000 dossier based on shoddy work.
originally posted by: Grambler
originally posted by: AboveBoard
originally posted by: Grambler
If it is true that the fisa warrant on page wouldnt have been approved without the dossier, it is the biggest political scandal of my lifetime.
I have been saying for months, that this would be Obama using paid for oppo research from his own party to spy on his opponent with the intel community, which is far more serious than something like watergate.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Does the memo say anything about Carter Page already being under. FISA warrant since 2014, prior to the Steele Dossier due to his involvement with known Russian spies? The FISA warrant was renewed since then, and the dossier was merely corroborating evidence that Carter still needed surveillance.
Here. The Washington Examiner from August 2017: Link
The warrant from page in 2014 was long since done.
In fact, the FBI attempted to get a fisa warrant on page in the summer of 2016, and in an almost unprecedented move, was denied by the court.
So the 2014 warrant is irrelevant.
It would be like me getting a warrant in 2014 to go into a drug dealers house, and then using that as an excuse to be improper about getting another warrant in 2016.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Xcathdra
We now know the FBI took Kremlin and Hillary campaign information and used it to spy on Trump
This is something I've been saying since the revelation of the dossier. The only demonstrable Kremlin influence with demonstrable effects on American democracy was Steele's work with Kremlin sources.
I just cannot get over the lack of journalistic curiosity over this entire story over the last couple of years. It's becoming more and more clear that much of the media was in on it.
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: UKTruth
I am wondering whether there is a middle ground here in agreeing a full investigation via an SC is warranted... then we can all get the detail we need to get to a common conclusion. Surely all would be for that, given the seriousness of the report from the US GOVT.
There's no middle ground to be had.
Trumps already been convicted in the kangaroo courts of public opinion.
And all it took as a $1,000,000 dossier based on shoddy work.
In the end it was based on Russian propaganda to sew discord in the US.
originally posted by: AboveBoard
originally posted by: Grambler
originally posted by: AboveBoard
originally posted by: Grambler
If it is true that the fisa warrant on page wouldnt have been approved without the dossier, it is the biggest political scandal of my lifetime.
I have been saying for months, that this would be Obama using paid for oppo research from his own party to spy on his opponent with the intel community, which is far more serious than something like watergate.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Does the memo say anything about Carter Page already being under. FISA warrant since 2014, prior to the Steele Dossier due to his involvement with known Russian spies? The FISA warrant was renewed since then, and the dossier was merely corroborating evidence that Carter still needed surveillance.
Here. The Washington Examiner from August 2017: Link
The warrant from page in 2014 was long since done.
In fact, the FBI attempted to get a fisa warrant on page in the summer of 2016, and in an almost unprecedented move, was denied by the court.
So the 2014 warrant is irrelevant.
It would be like me getting a warrant in 2014 to go into a drug dealers house, and then using that as an excuse to be improper about getting another warrant in 2016.
Ok. If was not continuous...Sooo do you think that his former surveillance might have played a factor in reestabilishing it? Does this memo give us all the facts or cherry picked facts to allow the Right to go nuts over a conspiracy theory?
I’m betting the second. In which case it is a lie.
originally posted by: AboveBoard
originally posted by: Grambler
originally posted by: AboveBoard
originally posted by: Grambler
If it is true that the fisa warrant on page wouldnt have been approved without the dossier, it is the biggest political scandal of my lifetime.
I have been saying for months, that this would be Obama using paid for oppo research from his own party to spy on his opponent with the intel community, which is far more serious than something like watergate.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Does the memo say anything about Carter Page already being under. FISA warrant since 2014, prior to the Steele Dossier due to his involvement with known Russian spies? The FISA warrant was renewed since then, and the dossier was merely corroborating evidence that Carter still needed surveillance.
Here. The Washington Examiner from August 2017: Link
The warrant from page in 2014 was long since done.
In fact, the FBI attempted to get a fisa warrant on page in the summer of 2016, and in an almost unprecedented move, was denied by the court.
So the 2014 warrant is irrelevant.
It would be like me getting a warrant in 2014 to go into a drug dealers house, and then using that as an excuse to be improper about getting another warrant in 2016.
Ok. If was not continuous...Sooo do you think that his former surveillance might have played a factor in reestabilishing it? Does this memo give us all the facts or cherry picked facts to allow the Right to go nuts over a conspiracy theory?
I’m betting the second. In which case it is a lie.