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originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: network dude
I am not sure if you are doing this intentionally, or you really do believe this. First off, doing something that is hard or that others thing is impossible, are the defining moments in our history. Not the US history, WORLD history. Those who we consider to be great men and women, did things others thought impossible, for the benefit of mankind. I don't claim to be even close to that kind of person, but I admire and respect the drive and determination a person would have to be that great.
For the THIRD time, I didn't say that leveling a mountain is impossible. I am a FIRM believer in the saying, "Where there is a will, there is a way." Of course it can be done if the desire and effort were there. The point I'm making is that the desire and effort AREN'T there. Instead we do things like build tunnels through mountains or cut valleys into the tops of them to make passage through easier. This is just an analogy anyways. There isn't exactly a need to level any mountains out there.
Second, yes, immigration is a problem and as long as we have the sh!t, others will want to be part of our sh!t. And there is a right way to go about that. If we give up and say protecting the borders is just way too hard, let's all just do a few bong rips and sing kum buy ya, then we aren't part of the solution, we are a YUGE part of the problem. Sadly, it's starting to sound like that's your position on this and that is sad to me. Being the kind of person who runs away from anything hard is not the kind of person I respect or even tolerate. Kids can learn how to overcome that mentality, adults just try to defend it. I sincerely hope that your statements on this are just based on your need to be a good partisan leftie and not how you really approach life.
I don't come to ATS looking for your respect or tolerance. Plus I've yet to converse with you where I got the feeling you were giving it to me to begin with. I've always spoken to you under the assumption that you have zero respect for me, my positions, and my thoughts. So your words and threats here are toothless.
For instance, in this very paragraph you have decided what I think without actually asking me if it is true all so you can use that as proof of why you shouldn't like me. Textbook example of your ongoing disrespect for me. You probably didn't even realize you were doing it either because you do it so naturally.
I respect you as a member of this community. I vehemently disagree with almost everything you say here. The liberal mindset is something I disagree with and I am a firm believer that my opinion is correct. It's why I choose to keep arguing for the same things. You irritate me, along with several other people in this thread. But you provide the silly fodder and horribly bad ideals that make my rants possible, so for that, I thank you. And I fully understand that you likely think you are correct. (pro tip, you aren't.)
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: network dude
And I don't see how that family is a threat to our borders that requires them to be protected.
And I don't see how the guy who broke into YOUR house and stole all YOUR things is a threat to me. After all, he didn't take MY stuff.
(the above is Hyperbole used to make a point, so consider this a pre-emtive disclaimer)
He broke the law, and when he tried to collect money from the IRS on the Social Security number he had stolen, they found out he was illegal and deported him. His greed go the best of him. The fact that he broke the law, doesn't change the fact that he is a nice guy. He broke the law. I don't know of any clearer way to make that point.
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: alldaylong
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: network dude
The U.S. was built on an invasion of immigrants. People just got onto ships and sailed over.
So what's the problem ?
LOL, and once those same immigrants all got together to form a nation, the enacted LAWS to govern how we would deal with Immigration. The fact that you and others don't seem to grasp that is "the problem".
So, did Native American Indians draw up those " Laws " ? It was their lands that where " stolen "
And your answer is ?
From the OP that you apparently didn't understand or didn't read:
originally posted by: network dude
We have a country that is made up of mostly immigrants, save for a few folks who were here first, but we took all their stuff, shoved them into camps and gave them shiny beads.
originally posted by: jimmyx
originally posted by: odzeandennz
a reply to: network dude
how are the laws of immigration being overlooked by the left?
Obama had deported more illegals than any other republican president over the last few decades....that easy-to-find statistic is ignored by the right...maybe that's why "network dude" remains baffled....if facts don't fit a certain narrative, ignore them altogether, like trump does.
originally posted by: avgguy
a reply to: Krazysh0t
Your buddy is hung up because people get here illegally. You understand every other developed country has immigration laws right?
originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Krazysh0t
your inability to recognize humor and continuing to act as if your have a large insect lodged in your rectum is a key factor in my opinion of you as well. we can agree to disagree, on everything.
originally posted by: alldaylong
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: alldaylong
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: network dude
The U.S. was built on an invasion of immigrants. People just got onto ships and sailed over.
So what's the problem ?
LOL, and once those same immigrants all got together to form a nation, the enacted LAWS to govern how we would deal with Immigration. The fact that you and others don't seem to grasp that is "the problem".
So, did Native American Indians draw up those " Laws " ? It was their lands that where " stolen "
And your answer is ?
From the OP that you apparently didn't understand or didn't read:
originally posted by: network dude
We have a country that is made up of mostly immigrants, save for a few folks who were here first, but we took all their stuff, shoved them into camps and gave them shiny beads.
I did in fact read the OP.
However you avoided the question i asked. Here it is again. Did Native American Indians draw up these laws?
In other words, do Native American Indians have an input into the Laws on who should occupy " their " land ?
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Krazysh0t
your inability to recognize humor and continuing to act as if your have a large insect lodged in your rectum is a key factor in my opinion of you as well. we can agree to disagree, on everything.
Yeah. In your travels through life you'll find lots of people who don't find it humorous when you insult them to their face. HILARIOUS isn't it?
they don't have that ability
originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: network dude
they don't have that ability
Did you really say that ?
Condescending or what !
They can't come out and openly say that they are for open borders, but they say it all the same.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Teikiatsu
YOU may be talking about legal immigration, but I'm talking about immigration as a whole. Both legal and illegal. Furthermore I don't care what label you give these people, they are all human in my eyes deserving of uniform respect as any other human.
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
2) I don't care that you merge the two. Illegal is illegal.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: avgguy
a reply to: Krazysh0t
Your buddy is hung up because people get here illegally. You understand every other developed country has immigration laws right?
We don't HAVE to be everyone else you know? America became great because we became the trend setter. Now we want to regress and follow the trends set by other countries?