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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
I have not expressed a single feeling in this thread. Everything I say is one based from logic and research.
...........
Yeah, It's a shame your ancestors didn't get the same when they came here.
I care, and about half of the nation also cares. See, this is where your version of reality isn't congruent with the Nation's.
You may not like it, but WE are interested in securing our borders. By WE, I mean the half of the voting public that decided to take a chance on Trump.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: network dude
Home ownership is NOT comparable to country borders. It's more apt to compare a country's borders to state borders. So let's do that. States have open borders and allow people to cross freely without checking. How many states have been torn apart due to free access between them?
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: network dude
If the laws were just written a few years ago, you might have a leg to stand on, you don't. Unless you can show that the nation as a whole is biased towards letting people from "desirable" nations enter, you are just using a logical fallacy. Appeal to emotion. Don't be that guy.
Did you not read your own OP? You are that guy.
LOL, you have fun with your version of reality. It's refreshing to see just how far skewed your thinking is.
No need to have a different version of reality. You posted it. You said it.
Your hypocrisy is your burden to bear, not mine.
and your posts are here for all to read as well. I am happy to own mine.
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: network dude
I care, and about half of the nation also cares. See, this is where your version of reality isn't congruent with the Nation's.
So it's only reality if it agrees with you half and your half speaks for the entire nation?
You may not like it, but WE are interested in securing our borders. By WE, I mean the half of the voting public that decided to take a chance on Trump.
Ok. So how does that deal with the people that are already here? This seems to be the problem I keep mentioning. This issue is much more complex than what fancy campaign slogans and border walls are going to fix.
I find it interesting that you said in the OP that you are honestly interested to know what the Left thinks on this issue and when you are told, you just insult people.
It appears that honesty was not the proper term to use.
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
I have not expressed a single feeling in this thread. Everything I say is one based from logic and research.
...........
Yeah, It's a shame your ancestors didn't get the same when they came here.
Wow, you amaze me with your ability to not understand yourself.
When the nation was being built, people from all different nations came here, and collectively, they all decided that we need to protect what we built. That is why we have immigration laws to begin with. And we have them in place so some bonehead doesn't decide that because his "feelz" are hurt, we should just let everyone play in our sandbox.
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: network dude
I care, and about half of the nation also cares. See, this is where your version of reality isn't congruent with the Nation's.
So it's only reality if it agrees with you half and your half speaks for the entire nation?
You may not like it, but WE are interested in securing our borders. By WE, I mean the half of the voting public that decided to take a chance on Trump.
Ok. So how does that deal with the people that are already here? This seems to be the problem I keep mentioning. This issue is much more complex than what fancy campaign slogans and border walls are going to fix.
I find it interesting that you said in the OP that you are honestly interested to know what the Left thinks on this issue and when you are told, you just insult people.
It appears that honesty was not the proper term to use.
no, it's reality because it's the #ING LAW! Jesus, do you not understand how laws work? They aren't subject to your mood, they are LAWS. I really have to say this, your position on this is EXACTLY why I wrote this and why I question your mental ability to function on your own.
originally posted by: ManFromEurope
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
I have not expressed a single feeling in this thread. Everything I say is one based from logic and research.
...........
Yeah, It's a shame your ancestors didn't get the same when they came here.
Wow, you amaze me with your ability to not understand yourself.
When the nation was being built, people from all different nations came here, and collectively, they all decided that we need to protect what we built. That is why we have immigration laws to begin with. And we have them in place so some bonehead doesn't decide that because his "feelz" are hurt, we should just let everyone play in our sandbox.
Why is it always Fear when talking about aliens, foreign people? How about some positive emotions, like proudness that they chose to come to your country, or feeling mercy for war refugees, or something like that?
Why always the Fear that They will do inevitably harm?
How about trying to be a little more optimistic?
Or how about being mercifull or altruistic like your favorite religion undoubtedly tells you to be?
no, it's reality because it's the #ING LAW! Jesus, do you not understand how laws work? They aren't subject to your mood, they are LAWS. I really have to say this, your position on this is EXACTLY why I wrote this and why I question your mental ability to function on your own.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: network dude
Where's your source explaining this? I posted a source that shows the bias that fueled immigration laws which backed up my argument. You appear to just be talking out your ass. So prove your claims.
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ManFromEurope
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
I have not expressed a single feeling in this thread. Everything I say is one based from logic and research.
...........
Yeah, It's a shame your ancestors didn't get the same when they came here.
Wow, you amaze me with your ability to not understand yourself.
When the nation was being built, people from all different nations came here, and collectively, they all decided that we need to protect what we built. That is why we have immigration laws to begin with. And we have them in place so some bonehead doesn't decide that because his "feelz" are hurt, we should just let everyone play in our sandbox.
Why is it always Fear when talking about aliens, foreign people? How about some positive emotions, like proudness that they chose to come to your country, or feeling mercy for war refugees, or something like that?
Why always the Fear that They will do inevitably harm?
How about trying to be a little more optimistic?
Or how about being mercifull or altruistic like your favorite religion undoubtedly tells you to be?
Ah, another appeal to emotion. How is it that we DO have a process to enter the United States and become a citizen? Did you forget that, while you were opening up your home to any and all who wish to squat there?
The Immigration and Nationality Act, or INA, was created in 1952. Before the INA, a variety of statutes governed immigration law but were not organized in one location. The McCarran-Walter bill of 1952, Public Law No. 82-414, collected and codified many existing provisions and reorganized the structure of immigration law. The Act has been amended many times over the years, but is still the basic body of immigration law.
The INA is divided into titles, chapters, and sections. Although it stands alone as a body of law, the Act is also contained in the United States Code (U.S.C.). The code is a collection of all the laws of the United States. It is arranged in fifty subject titles by general alphabetic order. Title 8 of the U.S. Code is but one of the fifty titles and deals with "Aliens and Nationality". When browsing the INA or other statutes you will often see reference to the U.S. Code citation. For example, Section 208 of the INA deals with asylum, and is also contained in 8 U.S.C. 1158. Although it is correct to refer to a specific section by either its INA citation or its U.S. code, the INA citation is more commonly used.
originally posted by: avgguy
a reply to: Krazysh0t
Lol, and how does that happen? What if I feel like drunk driving is perfectly fine? Or I feel like genocide is ok? Laws are there for a reason. Illegal immigrants failing to pay taxes, stealing socials and bankrupting hospitals isn’t moral.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: network dude
Scope and scale. I can use a shovel to level out a dirt hill, but if I took a shovel to a mountain I'd be at it for awhile.
originally posted by: network dude
So please explain why you feel we should ignore the law on this topic. I would honestly like to know.