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Free Speech in the UK Gets Worse

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posted on Feb, 2 2018 @ 11:39 AM
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a reply to: ScepticScot




Slavery is illegal. Some people have no moral objection to slavery.


"Not everyone had a standard of personal morality. Some times we need rules enforced."

Do you believe the above statement applies to the Nuremberg Laws?




posted on Feb, 2 2018 @ 11:40 AM
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a reply to: Kurokage




Then you must be a robot or a higher being. Words affect humans which inturn lead to actions.


No I'm a regular man. Every reaction and action is the result of my own doing, just like everyone else.



posted on Feb, 2 2018 @ 11:44 AM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope


Which also includes the words and sentences we say to each other.



posted on Feb, 2 2018 @ 11:46 AM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: ScepticScot




Slavery is illegal. Some people have no moral objection to slavery.


"Not everyone had a standard of personal morality. Some times we need rules enforced."

Do you believe the above statement applies to the Nuremberg Laws?


So because some laws are bad we shouldn't have any laws?



posted on Feb, 2 2018 @ 11:47 AM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Kurokage




Then you must be a robot or a higher being. Words affect humans which inturn lead to actions.


No I'm a regular man. Every reaction and action is the result of my own doing, just like everyone else.


Unless you are an actual sociopath not remotely true.



posted on Feb, 2 2018 @ 11:47 AM
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a reply to: ScepticScot




So because some laws are bad we shouldn't have any laws?


I'm just saying some laws are unjust.



posted on Feb, 2 2018 @ 11:48 AM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Kurokage




Then you must be a robot or a higher being. Words affect humans which inturn lead to actions.


No I'm a regular man. Every reaction and action is the result of my own doing, just like everyone else.


Unless you are an actual sociopath not remotely true.


Unless you are a sorcerer, no you cannot move matter with words.



posted on Feb, 2 2018 @ 11:49 AM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: ScepticScot




So because some laws are bad we shouldn't have any laws?


I'm just saying some laws are unjust.


And I agreed however many aren't.

My question was do you believe in any legal restrictions on speech?



posted on Feb, 2 2018 @ 11:50 AM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Kurokage




Then you must be a robot or a higher being. Words affect humans which inturn lead to actions.


No I'm a regular man. Every reaction and action is the result of my own doing, just like everyone else.


Unless you are an actual sociopath not remotely true.


Unless you are a sorcerer, no you cannot move matter with words.


Strawman. No one claimed they could.



posted on Feb, 2 2018 @ 11:53 AM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: ignorant_ape

It's a simple matter of physics. The idea that words has consequences is a matter of superstition.



originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Kurokage




Then you must be a robot or a higher being. Words affect humans which inturn lead to actions.


No I'm a regular man. Every reaction and action is the result of my own doing, just like everyone else.


So as a man that acts and reacts this also includes the words you say, does it not?



posted on Feb, 2 2018 @ 11:58 AM
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Strawman. No one claimed they could.


I was only mocking your silly appeal to emotion.



posted on Feb, 2 2018 @ 11:59 AM
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a reply to: Kurokage




So as a man that acts and reacts this also includes the words you say, does it not?


Yes I say my own words.



posted on Feb, 2 2018 @ 12:00 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: ScepticScot




Strawman. No one claimed they could.


I was only mocking your silly appeal to emotion.


No appeal to emotion, just pointing out you were incorrect.

Any answer on my question yet?



posted on Feb, 2 2018 @ 12:01 PM
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No appeal to emotion, just pointing out you were incorrect.

Any answer on my question yet?


No, you are incorrect, and you can only believe you are correct if you are a sorcerer.



posted on Feb, 2 2018 @ 12:03 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: ScepticScot




No appeal to emotion, just pointing out you were incorrect.

Any answer on my question yet?


No, you are incorrect, and you can only believe you are correct if you are a sorcerer.


Still avoiding the question with silly references to sorcerers. No one claimed words move objects.



posted on Feb, 2 2018 @ 12:06 PM
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Still avoiding the question with silly references to sorcerers. No one claimed words move objects.


So you agree that words have no effect on human beings?



posted on Feb, 2 2018 @ 12:08 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: ScepticScot




Still avoiding the question with silly references to sorcerers. No one claimed words move objects.


So you agree that words have no effect on human beings?


No I don't agree. And that wasn't you said.

I'll ask the question again. Do you believe in any legal restrictions on speech?
edit on 2-2-2018 by ScepticScot because: Edit to clarify



posted on Feb, 2 2018 @ 12:10 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Kurokage




So as a man that acts and reacts this also includes the words you say, does it not?


Yes I say my own words.

I agree with ScepticScot here, you are avoiding answering questions and trying to split hairs so you don't have to answer.

Your words affect the people around you, there mood, there actions and these have consequences, and so those words should also have consequences, so words can and do effect us.
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posted on Feb, 2 2018 @ 12:11 PM
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No I don't agree. And that wasn't you said.

I'll ask the question again. Do you believe in any legal restrictions on speech?


I'm a free speech absolutist. I believe in no restrictions, only more speech.

Do you believe words can affect human beings?



posted on Feb, 2 2018 @ 12:12 PM
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a reply to: Kurokage




Your words affect the people around you, there mood, there actions and these have consequences, and so those words should also have consequences.


Much like a curse or a magic spell?




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