Free Speech in the UK Gets Worse

a reply to: ScepticScot

Slavery is illegal. Some people have no moral objection to slavery.

"Not everyone had a standard of personal morality. Some times we need rules enforced."

Do you believe the above statement applies to the Nuremberg Laws?

a reply to: Kurokage

Then you must be a robot or a higher being. Words affect humans which inturn lead to actions.

No I'm a regular man. Every reaction and action is the result of my own doing, just like everyone else.

a reply to: LesMisanthrope


Which also includes the words and sentences we say to each other.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: ScepticScot

Slavery is illegal. Some people have no moral objection to slavery.

"Not everyone had a standard of personal morality. Some times we need rules enforced."

Do you believe the above statement applies to the Nuremberg Laws?

So because some laws are bad we shouldn't have any laws?

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Kurokage

Then you must be a robot or a higher being. Words affect humans which inturn lead to actions.

No I'm a regular man. Every reaction and action is the result of my own doing, just like everyone else.

Unless you are an actual sociopath not remotely true.

a reply to: ScepticScot

So because some laws are bad we shouldn't have any laws?

I'm just saying some laws are unjust.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Kurokage

Then you must be a robot or a higher being. Words affect humans which inturn lead to actions.

No I'm a regular man. Every reaction and action is the result of my own doing, just like everyone else.

Unless you are an actual sociopath not remotely true.

Unless you are a sorcerer, no you cannot move matter with words.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: ScepticScot

So because some laws are bad we shouldn't have any laws?

I'm just saying some laws are unjust.

And I agreed however many aren't.

My question was do you believe in any legal restrictions on speech?

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Kurokage

Then you must be a robot or a higher being. Words affect humans which inturn lead to actions.

No I'm a regular man. Every reaction and action is the result of my own doing, just like everyone else.

Unless you are an actual sociopath not remotely true.

Unless you are a sorcerer, no you cannot move matter with words.

Strawman. No one claimed they could.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: ignorant_ape

It's a simple matter of physics. The idea that words has consequences is a matter of superstition.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Kurokage

Then you must be a robot or a higher being. Words affect humans which inturn lead to actions.

No I'm a regular man. Every reaction and action is the result of my own doing, just like everyone else.

So as a man that acts and reacts this also includes the words you say, does it not?

a reply to: ScepticScot

Strawman. No one claimed they could.

I was only mocking your silly appeal to emotion.

a reply to: Kurokage

So as a man that acts and reacts this also includes the words you say, does it not?

Yes I say my own words.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: ScepticScot

Strawman. No one claimed they could.

I was only mocking your silly appeal to emotion.

No appeal to emotion, just pointing out you were incorrect.

Any answer on my question yet?

a reply to: ScepticScot

No appeal to emotion, just pointing out you were incorrect.

Any answer on my question yet?

No, you are incorrect, and you can only believe you are correct if you are a sorcerer.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: ScepticScot

No appeal to emotion, just pointing out you were incorrect.

Any answer on my question yet?

No, you are incorrect, and you can only believe you are correct if you are a sorcerer.

Still avoiding the question with silly references to sorcerers. No one claimed words move objects.

a reply to: ScepticScot

Still avoiding the question with silly references to sorcerers. No one claimed words move objects.

So you agree that words have no effect on human beings?

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: ScepticScot

Still avoiding the question with silly references to sorcerers. No one claimed words move objects.

So you agree that words have no effect on human beings?

No I don't agree. And that wasn't you said.

I'll ask the question again. Do you believe in any legal restrictions on speech?

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Kurokage

So as a man that acts and reacts this also includes the words you say, does it not?

Yes I say my own words.

I agree with ScepticScot here, you are avoiding answering questions and trying to split hairs so you don't have to answer.

Your words affect the people around you, there mood, there actions and these have consequences, and so those words should also have consequences, so words can and do effect us.

a reply to: ScepticScot

No I don't agree. And that wasn't you said.

I'll ask the question again. Do you believe in any legal restrictions on speech?

I'm a free speech absolutist. I believe in no restrictions, only more speech.

Do you believe words can affect human beings?

a reply to: Kurokage

Your words affect the people around you, there mood, there actions and these have consequences, and so those words should also have consequences.

Much like a curse or a magic spell?