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The State of the Union thread.

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posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 06:47 PM
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a reply to: MOMof3

The IRS is a federal institution, meaning it is and always has been Congress' responsibility to reign in. The same is not accurately said about America's medical industry. Apples, meet oranges. Oranges, meet apples.




posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 07:10 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

The congress has the power to investigate commerce, if they have enough witnesses who have been abused by system. They could order a study by cdc why Americans are dying younger.



posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 07:13 PM
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a reply to: MOMof3

They could also declare war on the Vatican or eliminate 100% of imports from outside the USA... both are within their powers, but that doesn't mean either is going to happen or that the majority of Americans would see either action positively.



posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 07:20 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

They don’t have the guts to declare wars anymore. Then there would have to be a war and pay plan.

They love and have a long history of investigations. Lots of speech and exposure.



posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 07:33 PM
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a reply to: Martin75

He/she is obviously a Democrat a can't handle it, so their new defense is he lied! If the statistics and # doesn't add up in their favor they think he is lying! Just shows you how evil these people are, all they care about is money and power. I would be embarrassed to be a Democrat right now. Everything they said about Trump, is them looking at themselves in the mirror. I hope they get exposed for who they truly are.



posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 08:25 PM
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Yup, that's the strategy that lost them the control of WH and Congress. "Knowing" that nobody could beat HRC and all they had to do was sit back and watch her win. Keep it up. It's an excellent strategy.

You really should find a video of the speech and watch it. Or---just fast forward until they show the crowd and the faces of the Democrats, their posture, their entire demeanor says they are whipped and they really, really don't understand how this came about. Then, just for your edification, watch the Kennedy response to see what they have to offer.

NOTE: The rumblings heard in the DC area last night were JFK & RFK spinning in their graves to hear that young man speak in such mean-spirited and negative tones. Very sad indeed.



posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 08:27 PM
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He hit a home run. Wow. Amazing job he actually said something. Sure beats the last 8 unless years of hope and change. For 8 years the carrot dangled before the horse to keep it moving. Hope and change hope and change. At the end of his presidency Obama was nothing but a NWO mouth piece and outright Communist. The affordable care act was nothing but a huge transfer of wealth. Those that had insurance soon were unable to afford it and those that earned nothing got the best care for little of nothing. Again nothing but a transfer of wealth.
I quote from Sir Winston Churchill, " The main vice of capitalism is the uneven distribution of prosperity. The main vice of socialism is the even distribution of misery."
Good night ATS and finally we have a President who will make hard decisions in the BEST interest of the American people. And for those who support chain migration we will put a check box on tax forms just for you. Check it and you get to pay 15% more in taxes to support your vision of flooding our country with all these mouths to feed, clothe and provide medical care.



posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 08:56 PM
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a reply to: diggindirt

Republicans have all legs of power and still whine and it’s somebody else’s fault. Very sad.

Meantime, I just got a loan to help my daughter pay for a surgery and missed hours at work. All democrats have to do is wait for this lousy republican governance to hit most families.



posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 09:03 PM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
Meantime, I just got a loan to help my daughter pay for a surgery and missed hours at work.


How is this possible when the ACA is still the current law of the land as it presently stands? The individual mandate is no more, which means that carrying insurance is once again a personal choice, but that did not kick in until this month. Was your daughter so amazingly unlucky as to have dropped her insurance the same month she required surgery... or was the ACA not that great a deal for you to begin with? If the answer is the latter, please explain why you'd have ever supported such a ridiculously costly and falsely advertised law and (more importantly) why you've spent so much energy attacking those who called the ACA exactly what you're personally experiencing it to be.



posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 09:08 PM
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a reply to: MOMof3
It's obvious you've not watched the speech. There was no whining, only optimism about the future. "....together we can achieve anything." after laying out his plan for dreamers to become citizens of this nation.

I'm truly sorry about your daughter needing surgery. That's a bummer.


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ETA: It is time for the Democrats to admit that Bill and Hillary have destroyed not only the party they claimed to love, but have kept such strict control of the party through their money people so as not to allow anyone with any sort of vision get any attention. Bright young Democrats who were honest and clean have been consistently chased away, some to the Republican party, some to third parties.

Jack Kennedy had a vision and way of articulating his vision that drew us into his vision and made us believe that we could reach for the stars. Yeah, he was a silver spoon millionaire but he made us want to do well and be in those rising boats of which he spoke. He made kids like me want to join the Peace Corps and help others.
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posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 09:18 PM
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She does have insurance. This is what she will owe after insurance. About $2000 plus a weeks loss of pay. She just paid off medical bills from last year.

My point is I can help my daughter. That isn’t true of most working Americans. When they start losing their homes and dealing with medical bill collectors, they’ll finally see the scam.



posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 09:19 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: MOMof3
Meantime, I just got a loan to help my daughter pay for a surgery and missed hours at work.


How is this possible when the ACA is still the current law of the land as it presently stands? The individual mandate is no more, which means that carrying insurance is once again a personal choice, but that did not kick in until this month. Was your daughter so amazingly unlucky as to have dropped her insurance the same month she required surgery... or was the ACA not that great a deal for you to begin with? If the answer is the latter, please explain why you'd have ever supported such a ridiculously costly and falsely advertised law and (more importantly) why you've spent so much energy attacking those who called the ACA exactly what you're personally experiencing it to be.


Nevermind
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posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 09:27 PM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: burdman30ott6

She does have insurance. This is what she will owe after insurance. About $2000 plus a weeks loss of pay. She just paid off medical bills from last year.

My point is I can help my daughter. That isn’t true of most working Americans. When they start losing their homes and dealing with medical bill collectors, they’ll finally see the scam.


What is different?
Is there something that Obama did that is different now?



posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 09:36 PM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: burdman30ott6

She does have insurance. This is what she will owe after insurance. About $2000 plus a weeks loss of pay. She just paid off medical bills from last year.

My point is I can help my daughter. That isn’t true of most working Americans. When they start losing their homes and dealing with medical bill collectors, they’ll finally see the scam.


...and my point is deductables went from $500-$1000 with max levels which were relatively bearable for rates that were 1/5th or less what they are today in exchange for plans with deductables that start at a couple thousand dollars and go up from there. What changed between sensible rates and today? The ACA was passed. The single largest tax increase in America's history, not passed in any way by Republicans. In fact, to be real blunt, if anything of the past year actually has the potential to hurt the GOP, it's going to be their failure to bury Obamacare then bury the damn shovel they dug it's grave with.

People start losing their homes, they need to bust the pandering fools who passed the disgrace in 2009, not the party that recognized elections have consequences and opted not to wade even further into the idiocy of state controlled healthcare. Yes, Virginia, elections have consequences. EVERY American voter needs to have that fact slammed square into their heads with the force of a thousand suns in every election held from here on out. WHAT happened that caused this medical cost debacle? Democrat controlled House, Senate, and Presidency happened. WHAT happened that caused American workers to have higher take home pay and the option to control their own finances where insurance is concerned? Republican controlled House, Senate, and Presidency happened. You're fooling yourself if you really believe the non-rabid left at all costs voters don't recognize this and vote accordingly.



posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 10:03 PM
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posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 10:36 PM
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I watched a little at work with a very strange fellow from Boston that slammed him the whole speech while I was reluctant I went for it... I work at the busiest Lowes in the country (till they built a new one down the street.). We upped our minimum wage by 3.85 cents an hour with a sign on bonus because Trump cut the corps taxes by 15%. I asked him you know why you make what you make working here? I pointed at the screen and said have a good night man.
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posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 10:52 PM
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What I am saying is that the politicians will lie and say anything to gather support from the voters. They do not care about the common man, that time is long gone, more like they show care and concern for the people as it suits them. And the Republicans have trotted out a working class guy before. Anyone remember Joe the Plumber?



posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 10:54 PM
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a reply to: sdcigarpig

That has been most certainly the case.



posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 11:44 PM
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originally posted by: sdcigarpig
a reply to: carewemust

What I am saying is that the politicians will lie and say anything to gather support from the voters. They do not care about the common man, that time is long gone, more like they show care and concern for the people as it suits them. And the Republicans have trotted out a working class guy before. Anyone remember Joe the Plumber?


I was just a skeptical as you at this time last year. But throughout this year each of my investments increased in value at a faster rate than I've seen in many years. Pension fund managers across the land are absolutely giddy with the gains.
That's a promise I heard Trump make in the campaign, to get the economy going again. I see it happening.

Another promise was to bring manufacturing jobs back. Yeah, sure said I. But there are 120 of those jobs coming to our county along with a $50 million dollar investment from a Korean company. Another 500 are under consideration for siting in our region.

He promised to get rid of the health care mandate. He got Congress to do that. Thanks to his insistence on that I'm no longer considered an outlaw and the fine I'm about to pay will be my last.

He promised to get a tax cut bill through Congress. He did that and many of my relatives have more disposable income as a direct result of his keeping that promise.

So when I hear him make promises to work on immigration and infrastructure and prison reform, I'm willing to cheer him on. I want those issues solved.

When he says he wants the bureaucrats who do not serve the people out, I can't agree with him more.

Maybe he is blowing smoke now where he wasn't before but I think he inspired a lot of people with that speech. Small business people feel they've got someone who has their back, someone who truly understands the burden of needless regulations and is actually doing something about it.

I like the attitude he expressed when he said, "...together we can do anything..."



posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 11:59 PM
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Trump speech was real good but as I have said He is not the best speaker.



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