Voynich Decoded

I'm so excited about this if it is real... This is something I have studied off and on for a very long time. I always thought it was an herbal medicine dictionary or grimoire of sorts....

15th Century Manuscript with alien characters decoded

Note to Mods - I had no clue where to post this article so I figured General Chit Chat was safe. Please move if necessary....

a reply to: CIAGypsy

Wow, I hope they really did figure it out. I'm interested to see what sort of descriptions go with all that strange stuff in there.

I took a shot at decoding it a few years ago, but I was of course unsuccessful. I don't know Hebrew, so that probably explains it.

a reply to: scojak

Well it's clearly not written in Hebrew characters... But according to the AI can be translated (most of it anyway) to Hebrew words. Considering many grimoires also utilize obfuscation to hide their true meaning from the unworthy, that might be one possible reason for the cryptography... But that could just be me hoping for something.... Lol.

I posted a link in some thread about this earlier, was an interesting read, cool use of AI.

Will be interesting to see what comes of it.

That'll be interesting ...

a reply to: CIAGypsy

So.... it’s not actually decoded. That short little bit that they did get through the AI translator sounds a lot like when people were playing with google translate. There was a thread here a few weeks ago about it. People were putting gibberish in and getting creepy # back out. Anyone remember?

Here it is.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

More details in this article....

Voynich Mystery Solved

The first 72 words in each section include references to 'farmer', 'light', 'air' and 'fire'.

More language that supports my grimoire theory....

Double post

There was a book written years ago called "The Bible Code". That had the idea that the original Hebrew version of the bible has secret "skip code" messages in the original text, these were letters that had a distance 1 or more characters apart. The theory was that these could be matched to modern day events due to the way that related words would cross over each other like a Wordsearch puzzle. Debunkers proved that you could find any combination of symbols to match any word because individual Hebrew characters encode for a single word or phrase when translated from letter based languages

They are using machine learning to do the decoding for the Voynich manuscript. So the system tries to match every possible language against all the combinations of symbols until there's a match, just like linguist specialist, but won't get tired or exhausted.

a reply to: Woodcarver

Read the article I posted above...it appears the words were scrambled and vowels dropped. (Hebrew indicates vowels with points which is what I'm assuming was dropped). There's also no syntax which makes translation complicated.

a reply to: stormcell

I've seen the Bible Code, but I'm still skeptical. It seems like a lot of coincidence in some cases. They are pointing out the "hits" but downplaying the non-repeatability and misses.

This seems to be different on the surface. They are using a library that is 97% accurate on 380 languages and still getting an 80% success rate on translation. That's significant. Given that they first thought it might be Arabic, I wonder if there's a mix of languages but predominantly Hebrew... Also there are some words, especially from a grimoire, which may not be in that dictionary....

so if it's "decoded", where are the translations?

a reply to: mymymy

Looks like they are still working on them. My guess is that they will be paid for a documentary or book before making the translations public.... This is how people cash in on their discoveries these days.

a reply to: CIAGypsy

I read the article, where it clearly states that it is not decoded. Which is literally the opposite of your OP title

a reply to: Woodcarver

You are playing semantics.... He stated he he was successful in translating 80% of the words into Hebrew. You can't make that kind of statement unless you have processed the entire text through the AI.

Without historians of ancient Hebrew, Dr Kondrak explained that the full meaning of the Voynich manuscript will remain a mystery.

What he doesn't understand is how to interpret the context around some of the text which is ambiguous.

He found more than 80 per cent of the words were in a Hebrew dictionary, but researchers did not know if they made sense together.

Without historians of ancient Hebrew Dr Kondrak explained the full meaning of the Voynich manuscript is likely to remain a mystery.

'We use human language to communicate with other humans, but computers don't understand this language, because it's designed for people.

'There are so many ambiguous meanings that we don't even realise,' said Mr Kondrak.

Just because he doesn't understand the contextual ambiguity doesn't mean it hasn't been decoded. He may have well provided the key to decode for those who understand the Hebrew context.

a reply to: CIAGypsy

Is it decoded?

originally posted by: Woodcarver
a reply to: CIAGypsy

Is it decoded?

There's a correlation that 80% of the text is Hebrew language. This is confirmed by a paper by Stephen Bax
stephenbax.net...

In his paper, the symbol pair oRoR correlate to Juniper or Juniper Berry in Arabic and Hebrew

originally posted by: stormcell

originally posted by: Woodcarver
a reply to: CIAGypsy

Is it decoded?

There's a correlation that 80% of the text is Hebrew language. This is confirmed by a paper by Stephen Bax
stephenbax.net...

In his paper, the symbol pair oRoR correlate to Juniper or Juniper Berry in Arabic and Hebrew

Is it decoded? Can i read it?

Not that I expect anyone to believe me, but I "knew" (intuitively felt) it was Hebrew. Can't remember why I came to that conclusion, but probably something to do with my constantly learning Hebrew, or the fact that the kabbalists were into all kinds of codes.

and finnaly an classic is put to rest!