Pedophile identifies as 9 year old

originally posted by: DBCowboy
What is the difference between a fetish where you pretend to be something you are not and self-identifying as something that you are not?

Mental illness, for the most part.

The simple fact is that when your mind chooses to identify self as something other than self, it is exhibiting irrational thought. In my younger days working mental health, we had a patient who believed he was a cup of coffee (or something along those lines). It wasn't catatonic behavior...he just didn't think coffee cups could respond so didn't respond.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: DBCowboy
What is the difference between a fetish where you pretend to be something you are not and self-identifying as something that you are not?

One obvious difference is sexual gratification.

Is the classic bigot-in-the-basement claiming he is an attack chopper just to hurt transsexuals or is he getting an erection at the thought of his propellers catching air and lifting off? Actually... that was a trick question. In both scenarios, the man in the basement is likely exercising a fetish.

Fetishes don't always have to be sexual.

Do they?

If you aren't talking about spiritual practice (in which case, a crucifix is technically a "fetish" item), then yes, fetishes are always sexual.

originally posted by: jjkenobi
So what kind of mental gymnastics do you have to perform to think LGBT people are born with a sexual attraction to the same sex is perfectly normal and acceptable but a pedophile who is born with a sexual attraction to kids is wrong and should be punished?

Oh boy, now you're trying to equate homosexuality with pedophilia.

People aren't punished for being pedophiles. They're punished for molesting children and for things like possessing child pornography which is the product of the sexual abuse/exploitation of children.

Derp?

It makes more sense now and I think everyone can agree.

This isn't about self-identifying or identity politics.

The nutbag has a weird, sick, perverse, disgusting, filthy, gross, nauseating, fetish.


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a reply to: DBCowboy

I don't know. Let's ask the yiffing furries.

a reply to: DBCowboy

The difference is wanting to live as it, and wanting to roleplay as it occasionally for sexual gratification.

If the person truly identifies as a 9 year old, it must be assumed he desires to have guardians, go to some kind of school, play on playgrounds, have curfews, allowance, no real true freedom.

Whereas if it's a fetish, he wants to get off by experiences the "innocent" play and experimentation that comes with that age.

The main issue is most of these people are truly just pedophiles making excuses trying to ride the identity train.


As messed up as it is I'd have no problem with a bunch of adults living as 9 year olds, with other adults that act as their parents and going to a fake school with other adult 9 year olds and having all the student adult parent child relationships they want, so long as it stays there and goes no where near actual children.

Problem is these are pedophiles, and they'll always want the real thing and are just looking for ways to excuse their behavior.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

So the question then becomes:

When is it "trans" and when is it "believing you're something you're not" which sets you into the category of mental illness rather than special identity victim class?

As we can see from this story, we're watching someone attempt to blur those lines. Most people would call a pedophile a special kind of mentally ill (not a good kind of special either), but here we have him trying to deflect from that category by trying to place himself into a special identity victim class -- transage -- by calling himself a 9-year-old.

And that's really been the point several of us are trying to make.

What are the lines we draw? Because at many other points where many would like to draw lines, we've been told that it's hateful and bigoted, so this collision has been coming for a while now.

There are either rules or there are not, and playing solely by emotion is opening the door to pure arbitrary chaos.

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: DBCowboy
What is the difference between a fetish where you pretend to be something you are not and self-identifying as something that you are not?

One obvious difference is sexual gratification.

Is the classic bigot-in-the-basement claiming he is an attack chopper just to hurt transsexuals or is he getting an erection at the thought of his propellers catching air and lifting off? Actually... that was a trick question. In both scenarios, the man in the basement is likely exercising a fetish.

Fetishes don't always have to be sexual.

Do they?

If you aren't talking about spiritual practice (in which case, a crucifix is technically a "fetish" item), then yes, fetishes are always sexual.

so are gender roles fetishes? Are they both always sexual? Unless it is spritual of course

originally posted by: bulwarkz

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: DBCowboy
What is the difference between a fetish where you pretend to be something you are not and self-identifying as something that you are not?

One obvious difference is sexual gratification.

Is the classic bigot-in-the-basement claiming he is an attack chopper just to hurt transsexuals or is he getting an erection at the thought of his propellers catching air and lifting off? Actually... that was a trick question. In both scenarios, the man in the basement is likely exercising a fetish.

Fetishes don't always have to be sexual.

Do they?

If you aren't talking about spiritual practice (in which case, a crucifix is technically a "fetish" item), then yes, fetishes are always sexual.

so are gender roles fetishes? Are they both always sexual? Unless it is spritual of course

Some people do drag for sexy times and many couples swap roles to get off, sure.

The spiritual definition wasn't a jab at religion like you are probably thinking. It's literally a different use for the word. There are religious fetish items and then there are sexual fetishes. Those are the two definitions.

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: bulwarkz

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: DBCowboy
What is the difference between a fetish where you pretend to be something you are not and self-identifying as something that you are not?

One obvious difference is sexual gratification.

Is the classic bigot-in-the-basement claiming he is an attack chopper just to hurt transsexuals or is he getting an erection at the thought of his propellers catching air and lifting off? Actually... that was a trick question. In both scenarios, the man in the basement is likely exercising a fetish.

Fetishes don't always have to be sexual.

Do they?

If you aren't talking about spiritual practice (in which case, a crucifix is technically a "fetish" item), then yes, fetishes are always sexual.

so are gender roles fetishes? Are they both always sexual? Unless it is spritual of course

Some people do drag for sexy times and many couples swap roles to get off, sure.

The spiritual definition wasn't a jab at religion like you are probably thinking. It's literally a different use for the word. There are religious fetish items and then there are sexual fetishes. Those are the two definitions.

do fetishes get pronouns?
And if so, do we have more pronouns for nuns and monks and stuff, and all their variations?

Oh, for pronouns lets have everyone wear them on a chain around their neck, like crucifixes. That way if you ran into me and didn't know me but you saw me wearing a crucifix around my neck (i do not wear one however) you could address me as "hey christer" wassup?"

originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: face23785

Can someone 'self-identify' as an act of God and drown him?

We should have medals on ATS, a step above receiving an applause, and you should receive one for this post.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

So the question then becomes:

When is it "trans" and when is it "believing you're something you're not" which sets you into the category of mental illness rather than special identity victim class?

When there is an established physiological pathology behind the diagnosis alongside over a thousand years of precedence, that is "trans".

When you are trying to get out of going to prison by claiming you are a child, that is clearly not the same thing.

But you know this. You all know this. And I know I'm wasting my time explaining it.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

As we can see from this story, we're watching someone attempt to blur those lines.

We certainly are.

a reply to: ketsuko

There is no difference between the 2. Trans people believe they are something they are not, and seek surgical recourse against it. It doesn't fix the issue, but it could help bring enough contentment and feeling of wholeness to provide for a chance to live happily.

What this guy is doing is making crap up. There is no blurring of lines, unless there is a long clinical history showing that he's actually insane. Even then, it doesn't mean that he isn't guilty of a crime, because it is likely he knew what he was doing was wrong.

a reply to: Abysha

So then, how do you draw the line between the man in Canada who has self-identified as a 6-year-old girl and left his family and this one who is now claiming he is suffering something similar?

And how do you draw the line between someone who transitioned to female all on their own and someone like Manning who could be said to have done it in part to get their prison term lightened/lessened?

originally posted by: Perfectenemy

I don't give a f#ck if someone calls me a bigot. Charge this pos and throw the book at him. If that were my children they would never even found his body. He can identify as anything he wants when Bubba comes out to play in prison.

You want to kill a 9 year old boy?...

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Abysha

So then, how do you draw the line between the man in Canada who has self-identified as a 6-year-old girl and left his family and this one who is now claiming he is suffering something similar?

And how do you draw the line between someone who transitioned to female all on their own and someone like Manning who could be said to have done it in part to get their prison term lightened/lessened?

There is no need to draw any lines when a law is broken and there is a clear victim. Consider that to be a "line eraser".

Otherwise, without laws broken, its just someone doing what they should be free to do: behave in accordance with the laws.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Abysha

So then, how do you draw the line between the man in Canada who has self-identified as a 6-year-old girl and left his family and this one who is now claiming he is suffering something similar?

And how do you draw the line between someone who transitioned to female all on their own and someone like Manning who could be said to have done it in part to get their prison term lightened/lessened?

We're talking about a pedophile and you are still obsessed about drawing lines to see how closely you can align this pedophile to people you don't think are valid?

Where do you draw the line?

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: ketsuko

There is no difference between the 2. Trans people believe they are something they are not, and seek surgical recourse against it. It doesn't fix the issue, but it could help bring enough contentment and feeling of wholeness to provide for a chance to live happily.

Well this poor guy might shave his nuts and take Testosterone inhibitor drugs and Sim Sim Sala Bim a perfect little nine year old boy...

It is obvious no one in this thread will defend this POS or his idiotic idea as a defence he has assaulted children and I hope he gets what's coming to him but IF anyone wants to identify as a panda, skyscraper or a small lizard called Bob If they ain't doing no harm why judge em? let em live their life because they are not harming your life at all.
Live and let live.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: DBCowboy
What is the difference between a fetish where you pretend to be something you are not and self-identifying as something that you are not?

One obvious difference is sexual gratification.

Is the classic bigot-in-the-basement claiming he is an attack chopper just to hurt transsexuals or is he getting an erection at the thought of his propellers catching air and lifting off? Actually... that was a trick question. In both scenarios, the man in the basement is likely exercising a fetish.

Fetishes don't always have to be sexual.

Do they?


Edit; I stand corrected, the definition of a fetish is sexual in nature.

Question answered.

Not anymore. Everyone gets their own definitions these days. It's all part of the whole individualism thing. "Well, what it means to ME is..." takes the place of the fact that words already have established definitions.