Dear Q: We're Watching You

a reply to: Boadicea

Shall I reiterate my question about your statements ? Or will you answer the thread & ATS as to your brainwashing skills and influencing minds I promise I'll leave you alone then but those statements are large and should be expounded upon for the benefit of all your readers and not just your followers and fans.
Please just once a direct answer. Also know im NOT trying to derail your thread i think its a FANTASTIC TOPIC and ATS worthy by all accounts.

SO let's Bring that statement in question so others wont have to go back 3 pages for clarification: YOUR WORDS ... please explain...

Here's the thing: I know a little sumpin' sumpin' about the tactics and techniques to influence minds... if not outright brainwash folks... and it disturbs me to see you using those same tactics and techniques -- at least what seems to be those same tactics and techniques. Why the head games if you're legit?

a reply to: TheJesuit

You appear to be trained and skilled in derailing great threads that encourage others to analyze and draw their own conclusions.

Hm...wonder why that is?

That's a rhetorical question. The answer is already obvious.

Not what I'm going for, this thread is actually pretty cool for ATS!! SO by all means post post post but The OP refuses to respond to my query which speaks VOLUMES.
LOL as far as being obvious have you read any of my posts some are real doozys!! So no not to worry i'm not a shill, but i do see what other don't.
Please carry on with the topic #1. Question everything until it proves itself

a reply to: MotherMayEye

a reply to: Boadicea

I read through it as well but came to a different conclusion.

He implies that Binney is responsible for the supercomputer known as the Hammer. This is incorrect. Binney developed a program for collection of information that left out innocent people. This was rejected by NSA because they wanted everyone.

The Hammer was a project of contractor Dennis Montgomery that allowed Clapper and Brennen to breach other computer systems and gather data. All info upto 2012 was turned over to FBI. For instance Citi and Florida voter registration etc. There actually was a lawsuit.

I made a thread last year and someone else did as well.

Since this is factually incorrect and Binney is not associated with the Hammer...I am not buying anything.

EDIT to add: The above is specifically associated with the Brenden Dilly posts (leaks???) not to Q, unless Q happens to endorse it.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: Byrd
Q never truly pre-announces anything...

This is what sent me down the road of disenchantment.

My interest was piqued because of this:

And, it's true...the time stamps seem to show 'Q' posted that '+++' minutes before Trump tweeted it. But then I went to the original 4 chan thread and the person who created the thread actually used '+++' in the thread title before 'Q' used it in his/her/their/its comment.

Also, one of the first people to comment in that thread posted a screenshot of a portion of Trump's tweet with the '+++,' which suggests that Trump actually tweeted the '+++' first, not 'Q,' not the person who started that thread.

Given that was the one thing that made me wonder if 'Q' was close to Trump, I pretty much lost all enthusiasm after that epiphany.

(If I am misunderstanding anything though...I hope someone with a greater understanding of 4 chan can enlighten me.)

This appears to be a case of what Arthur Conan Doyle called "finding a button and sewing a vest on it." In other words, finding an interesting thing and then creating an entire narrative around it without other evidence of that narrative.

Let's look at a few things:
* how unique is the "+++"? I've used that (or different numbers of pluses) to frame things or to draw attention to something I'm typing in casual conversation. About the same time that this was typed, I put a note on my World of Warcraft guild's "Login Message" about upcoming raids that same week and I prefaced it with "+++" so that it would catch the attention of people logging in. Does this mean I'm channeling Trump? I don't think so. I think that the "+++" is simply a coincidental use of a common set of signs to make something more noticeable.

And I think Trump is a fumble-fingered typist who hit the + instead of the ! The Plus is right above the exclamation point on your phone's keyboard screen (take a look and see.)

Now look at the rest of the Q message. You can try and make a link of all those things to the Trump announcement but frankly you could link that same message to a lot of things. For example, this tweet by the social media management company, Hootsuite.

We are thrilled to continue to expand our relationship with @Adobe, bringing powerful new integrations that will help @AdobeExpCloud customers leverage social in meaningful ways 🙌 Learn more here: ow.ly...

Now I can tie that into these elements from the Q text
+ "paint the picture" - big news
+ crumbs will make bread - partnerships expand the company (though this is a real nonsense phrase. Crumbs don't make bread!
+ Operations underway - well, the partnership has started, so yes.
+ Operations active - now AdobeExpCloud customers can use Hootsuite
+ Pray - you can pray for lots of things, including for profits for both companies
+ Snow White - HootSuite is a daughter (or step-daughter) of Invoke Media, which turned out to NOT be the fairest social media group in the land (like the Stepmother, Invoke was eclipsed by the child operation
+ Godfather III - Adobe's Randy Furr left the company in 2006 and there were rumors at the time that this was because of a stock (banking) scandal

See?

I can tie anything into the Q posts.

Now, compare that to the RoguePOTUSstaff tweet:

11:54 AM - 18 Jul 2017‏
David Bossie may be secretly interviewing to become new Chief of Staff.

Has Bossie been around Trump? Yes, from the early days. Was Trump considering changing staff then? Yes he was

Can I reframe that RoguePOTUSstaff tweet to be about Hootsuite or the Boston Symphony Orchestra or NASA? Nope.

And that's why I say that Q is not an insider. All of Q's messages could apply (if you try) to anything from Madonna's Twitter account to New York City Parks Department's Twitter. Or even MY Twitter.

a reply to: Byrd

As I explained..I think Trump tweeted the +++ before 'Q', despite what the timestamps show. Given that, I don't think the +++ was meaningful in legitimizing 'Q.'

I'm not sure you understood that I was was agreeing with your statement I quoted.

originally posted by: liveandlearn
a reply to: Boadicea

I read through it as well but came to a different conclusion.

He implies that Binney is responsible for the supercomputer known as the Hammer. This is incorrect. Binney developed a program for collection of information that left out innocent people. This was rejected by NSA because they wanted everyone.

The Hammer was a project of contractor Dennis Montgomery that allowed Clapper and Brennen to breach other computer systems and gather data. All info upto 2012 was turned over to FBI. For instance Citi and Florida voter registration etc. There actually was a lawsuit.

I made a thread last year and someone else did as well.

Thank you. I thought I remembered Montgomery being the one who developed that program, but I figured I was just misremembering and that Montgomery had only blown the whistle on its misuse. I should have double-checked that. Thanks for being better than me!

Since this is factually incorrect and Binney is not associated with the Hammer...I am not buying anything.

Sounds about right to me.

The thing is, for me, I do think Q's messages are significant -- but I'm not sure how or to whom. And I really don't understand why Q is getting more attention than Dilley. Of course both are just talk at this point... but Dilley's "talk" is much more specific, he names names and places and all kinds of details, and he himself is not only not anonymous but running for Congress. I noted that one comment in the thread pointed out times that Dilley reported things before Q. Another comment mentioned that Dilley claims 5% of what his source tells him is bull, but the rest is true.

I don't know what to make of it all yet.

originally posted by: Byrd
And that's why I say that Q is not an insider. All of Q's messages could apply (if you try) to anything from Madonna's Twitter account to New York City Parks Department's Twitter. Or even MY Twitter.

that's what's so amazing to me. a random string of phrases picked apart and reassembled and people are so sure they've understood a message that they pretty much created entirely themselves.

it's like nostradamus on crack.

a reply to: Byrd

You make good points. It was those three "+" signs that got me intrigued initially. Until, as MotherMayEye pointed out the discrepancies in the timestamps.

But do you have any thoughts on who Q is and what his purpose is? Just having some fun with current events? An insider keeping the base "in the loop?" A major psyop? And if so, by who?

NAH a editby]edit on 27-1-2018 by TheJesuit because: (no reason given)