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Stephen Boyd - deep state insider or concerned DOJ employee?

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posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 09:33 AM
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Assistant Attorney General Stephen Boyd told House Intelligence Committee chairman Rep. Devin Nunes in a letter Wednesday that releasing a memo prepared by the committee's staff alleging abuses at the Department of Justice and FBI would be "extraordinarily reckless."


It appears "The Justice Department" isn't advising Nunes against THE MEMO's release, but just a single employee. Asst. AG Stephen Boyd is behind the recent Justice Department push against THE MEMO.

We should be very skeptical of anyone opposed to transparency and truth. Those who resist exposing government abuse and overreach are probably not friends of this country.

www.msn.com...
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posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 09:40 AM
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What I find odd is the apparent lack of assertiveness by Sessions.

If I run a department at a governmental level, the official statements released by the management of said department need to mirror the official statements released by the departments official mouthpiece.

If there is no comment forthcoming, then i can only assume (given his title) that management of said department is speaking on behalf of the department.

If this is true...then Sessions himself seems completely uninvolved in anything within his own department, other than trying to go after pot.



posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 09:45 AM
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The Letter is a lollipop for the "unBelievers" and opponents of exposure.

Strategy working.






posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 09:55 AM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan


Texan, I was wondering this myself after reading another article (on the SC investigation). It is almost like we have no Attorney General, and instead have a small "cabal" of top level DOJ employees calling the shots. Is this simply too much delegation or some sort of malfeasance on the part of the AG? I couldn't speculate, but "the optics" (as they say) do not look good IMHO

Except as you said when it comes to targeting legal pot. What we have seen from Sessions is seemingly a complete lack of interest in advocating for victims of violent federal crimes, providing more resources to local LE (not military vehicles/weapons, but training and grant money), ferreting out corruption or investigating the alleged FISA abuses or any other issue the American people seem concerned about.

The one thing he has taken a stand against, legal pot, is widely popular (support of legislation, that is) among vast swathes of our population. Pursuing anti-pot legislation in spite of state's rights and popular mandate makes it appear the AG is overreaching and fighting a moral/personal crusade instead of doing his job

Sessions needs to get his act together in my opinion, or the President should seriously consider appointing an AG that will pursue the mountain of allegations RE: deep state criminals with the same vigor they launched an investigation into Trump over a salacious Clinton-campaign dossier with specious or non-existent evidence.


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posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 09:55 AM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
What I find odd is the apparent lack of assertiveness by Sessions.

If this is true...then Sessions himself seems completely uninvolved in anything within his own department, other than trying to go after pot.


He may well be in another place, even with the hue and cry about missing texts he's gone very quiet...naybe it's something to do with his interview with Mueller, and after all, he does seem to be the er, first cabinet man to have been interviewed by Mueller.



posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 10:03 AM
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a reply to: smurfy


Either way, he is seeming more and more like dead weight. He needs to do his job, before he risks losing what confidence the American people have left in him.

So far, he has not proven capable of keeping his department in line, and ensuring political witch-hunts aren't allowed to prosper. He should have never recused himself, and the first FBI investigation (which found no wrong-doing, BTW) was plenty sufficient for this Russia nonsense. After all, there's never been any evidence other than a salacious and totally bogus "dossier" which turned out to be a product of the Clinton campaign.



posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 10:05 AM
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originally posted by: JBurns

Assistant Attorney General Stephen Boyd told House Intelligence Committee chairman Rep. Devin Nunes in a letter Wednesday that releasing a memo prepared by the committee's staff alleging abuses at the Department of Justice and FBI would be "extraordinarily reckless."


It appears "The Justice Department" isn't advising Nunes against THE MEMO's release, but just a single employee. Asst. AG Stephen Boyd is behind the recent Justice Department push against THE MEMO.

We should be very skeptical of anyone opposed to transparency and truth. Those who resist exposing government abuse and overreach are probably not friends of this country.

www.msn.com...


You should also be skeptical of people crying about how bad a partisan memo is who haven't seen it and how narratives are pushed.

You should also look at the voting record in surveillance from those pushing the memo to see if they are truly concerned about the abuses being done on the American people.

Why did they hush up Rand Paul and Justin Amash from habing a debate over the fIsa surveillance expansions and reinstatement vote, in Paul'S case I don't even think they let him bring his proposals never mind have the debate..

I hope if we get a blackout memo full of redactions and no reference material people aren't gullible enough to fall for this crap.

By the look of some of the most partisan media and posters it's already a done deal.

Also if you were an actual investigator hot on the trails of people like lynch the last thing you want is Devin Nunes playing cherades for the election cycle.

Hence why Wray even though personally subpoenaed didn't want to give up the information to the hack.
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posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 10:06 AM
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a reply to: JBurns

It appears to me that Sessions is wholly on board with executing the desires of the prison and pharmaceutical lobbies.

When it comes to asserting the law and executing the duties of his office, he's wholly absent.



posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 10:07 AM
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a reply to: luthier

If truth ends up being delivered by a hypocrite, it doesn't devalue the truth.

Rather than worry about bias, i'd prefer see any accusations investigated and checked. If Nunes is FOS, let his electors vote.



posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 10:08 AM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Well jeffie has a lot of calls to make. His retirement is coming up, wants to make sure he can sail off into the sunset.



posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 10:09 AM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Hypocrites rarely provide the truth. It's absolutely absurd to believe any of these liars.

It's complete confirmation bias at work..

And a good investigator looks at motive.

What is nunes motive to tell the truth or help his party and self interests?


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posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 10:11 AM
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originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Hypocrites rarely provide the truth. It's absolutely absurd to believe any of these liars.

It's complete confirmation bias at work..



It IS absurd. LOL

That is what makes it all so entertaining.

If I believed that our elected leaders would actually make better use of their time, I may be upset I suppose. But seeing the beast eat itself is pretty damn fun to see.



posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 10:13 AM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

I just hope Steve Carrell plays Nunes someday. With a similar Michael Scott slant.

Schiff maybe lex Grossman(Tom cruise) from tropic thunder
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posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 10:33 AM
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a reply to: luthier

Schiff should play himself. That would be creepy as heck! If he ain't in jail when production starts that is.

Thank You, Devin Nunes for persevering against deep state antics. Keep up the great work. 👍



posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 10:36 AM
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The latest is that Nunes never even received access to the documents that he wrote this memo about. It's all bs and that's why they won't release it. If it comes down to the fact that they relied on the dossier to get warrants, it won't be end of the world for FBI or the Dems.



posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 10:37 AM
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originally posted by: The GUT
a reply to: luthier

Schiff should play himself. That would be creepy as heck! If he ain't in jail when production starts that is.

Thank You, Devin Nunes for persevering against deep state antics. Keep up the great work. 👍


Yet voted down a debate over fisa expansion then voted for the reinstatement of the fisa program with some additional expansion...

More like thank you Devin for using propaganda to try and mislead tell public


Wait until the redacted memo comes out with no reference material. That should be great


Or maybe just keep it a boogeyman nobody can see

edit on 25-1-2018 by luthier because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 10:38 AM
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a reply to: JBurns

I think you need to dig a little further into this recommendation by Boyd. Directly from the article in your OP:

Alternatively, Boyd suggested that Nunes offer the memo to its watchdog, DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz


Some Background on Horowitz

Michael Horowitz was an Obama appointee in 2011 and took power as IG in 2012. Obama did this to mute Horowitz because Horowitz was and most importantly still is a freedom fighter for the citizens of the United States. It began with Eric Holder’s interpretation of § 6 of The Inspector General Act of 1978. (Authority of Inspector General). "Holder and his legal team determined that the Inspector General (IG) had to request information. This allowed Holder (and other agency heads) to bog down IG requests in bureaucratic red tape, and in some cases, deny them outright."

Inspector General Michael Horowitz then waged a war of attrition and independence against a corrupt tyrannical Obama Administration from day one. He forged an alliance with Congress, and using an inside/outside game went from an empty hearing room at a budget meeting to freedom. Horowitz waged this war tirelessly.

Trust me...if THE MEMO gets turned over to Horowitz...it's game over for higher ups in the FBI, Comey, Obama, and of course Hillary.

What AG Stephen Boyd is recommending is a VERY good thing.

EDIT: THIS is what Horowitz fought so diligently for and eventually FORCED Obama to sign it into law after the democrats caved.

www.congress.gov...

1st Paragraph Excerpt:

Inspector General Empowerment Act of 2016 (Sec. 2) This bill amends the Inspector General Act of 1978 to exempt inspectors general (when they are conducting an authorized audit, investigation, inspection, evaluation, or review) from: (1) information privacy protections that require agreements between agencies for computerized comparisons of automated federal records systems under the Computer Matching and Privacy Protection Act of 1988, and (2) procedural requirements for information collections under the Paperwork Reduction Act.
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posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 10:40 AM
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a reply to: Outlier13

That is assuming the memo isn't a piece of trash.

Based on Nunes voting record it's pretty likely he is just a liar.



posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 10:45 AM
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a reply to: luthier

The fact Boyd is recommending THE MEMO to be turned over to Horowitz tells me 100% it has big gnarly teeth. I guarantee you it is not trash. Horowitz is one of the most methodical IGs in the history of the DOJ. And he is 100% opposed to the ideological beliefs of people like Obama and his minions.

Boyd knows this and is playing a very, very, smart game to ensure success. If we recklessly release info without due diligence and building a binding and indisputable case then we lose the war.



posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 10:54 AM
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a reply to: Outlier13

Boyd could turn his own evidence in.

He could also be calling Nunes bluff.



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