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Former president Obama requested British intelligence To Spy on Donald Trump and His Organization.

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posted on Jan, 24 2018 @ 12:16 AM
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originally posted by: testingtesting
a reply to: 3daysgone

Still a hoax though.


No. The site claimed it, which was what I said. That was no hoax. The information might have been a hoax, but no one has proven it to be a hoax. So that part is still up in the air.




posted on Jan, 24 2018 @ 12:17 AM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Funny..

This came out when all this started last year and GCHQ adamantly denied involvement.

Nothing like pulling an end run around the Constitution by using another country to do their dirty work. I kind of wish the standard that applies to people who assist law enforcement at law enforcement request would apply in this area as well.


Yeah its like how the NSA pays corporations to to grab data / for data they've grabbed that the NSA otherwise wouldn't have the legal grounds to directly exploit.




posted on Jan, 24 2018 @ 12:17 AM
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originally posted by: the2ofusr1
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

This was posted on YT back around the time


Done in Mar 6, 2017

There is something. Good find.



posted on Jan, 24 2018 @ 12:20 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Grambler


Based on the patterns we've seen thus far, want to take a guess as to why this statement from GCHQ is labeled as "extremely rare".?

Britain's intelligence and security organisation has dismissed claims, suggested by the White House, that it helped Barack Obama spy on Donald Trump as "nonsense" in an incredibly rare public statement.


Source- dated March 17, 2017: www.telegraph.co.uk...

Why not British Intelligence spying on Trump at the behest of Obama?

WHY NOT?


I remember claims around here / must have been articles that came with them, claims back in around December 2016 when things were heating up, that the UK amongst many other NATO ally intel agencies all were spying on the Trump Campaign.

It was all being held up as a sort of de facto proof that Trump was that dirty.

Now in hindsight its not too much to expect that it would tie in here, if this new plot twist is true.
edit on 24-1-2018 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 24 2018 @ 12:34 AM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Here is the thing. Hal Turner posted that on January 19, 2018. But if you look at the link i gave it was posted 24 days ago, before Hal Turner posted it in his website.



This wasn't linked because of Hal Turner...
edit on 24-1-2018 by ElectricUniverse because: add link and add comment.



posted on Jan, 24 2018 @ 12:49 AM
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originally posted by: aethertek
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

BS! The way it went down was our Five Eyes partners were routinely monitoring Russian targets & Trump & company kept showing up in the intercepts.

This was before the "dossier" so was the alert status sent to the American IC about the intercepts.

That was why the dossier was taken so seriously because it was corroborating information in regards the foreign intercepts.

K~


Care to provide evidence of what you claim? BTW, posting other claims is not evidence.



posted on Jan, 24 2018 @ 12:53 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Yeah that’s interesting but I don’t know how much I trust that source.

Is there anything to back this up as being legi??



posted on Jan, 24 2018 @ 01:06 AM
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BTW, yes GCHQ denies this, but they lie just like Clapper was caught lying when he was asked if the NSA was spying on millions of Americans.


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In his daily press briefing yesterday, White House press secretary Sean Spicer repeated a claim that President Barack Obama had used British spies to surveil President Trump. After laying out a number of different media sources which Spicer suggested supported Trump’s contention that he was wiretapped, he concluded:

Last, on Fox News on March 14th, Judge Andrew Napolitano made the following statement — quote — Three intelligence sources have informed Fox News that President Obama went outside the chain of command. He didn’t use the NSA, he didn’t use the CIA, he didn’t use the FBI, and he didn’t use the Department of Justice. He used GCHQ. What is that? It’s the initials for the British intelligence spying agency. So simply by having two people saying to them the president needs transcripts of conversations involving candidate Trump’s conversations, involving President-elect Trump, he’s able to get it and there’s no American fingerprints on this. Putting the published accounts and common sense together, this leads to a lot.
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edit on 24-1-2018 by ElectricUniverse because: correct link and excerpt.



posted on Jan, 24 2018 @ 01:17 AM
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originally posted by: testingtesting
a reply to: 3daysgone

Still a hoax though.


Would you believe this is real, if a British Intelligence connection is mentioned in the HIC/Nunez Memo?

There's a reason why some Congressmen are reluctant to reveal "Sources" and "Methods" mentioned in #ReleaseTheMemo.



posted on Jan, 24 2018 @ 01:30 AM
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Even Snowden debunks the claims from GCHQ, which they deny as well.




posted on Jan, 24 2018 @ 01:31 AM
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originally posted by: Martin75
a reply to: MteWamp
Yet another Russian Bot


With all us Russians it's no wonder ATS is Pro-Trump as some say.


We should start using a cool motto.

Russian Bot and Proud!



posted on Jan, 24 2018 @ 01:53 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

One very simple question for you.

Do you believe the document in your OP is real, that is to say it is a real document published by GCHQ that has been leaked??



posted on Jan, 24 2018 @ 02:39 AM
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its funny how the people who probably orchestrated the dossier hacks and fake stories, are still pushing fibs for the same 'gullibles' to buy into.



posted on Jan, 24 2018 @ 04:45 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

HOAX HOAX HOAX YOU RUSSIAN TROLLS.

Get away from American ATS. We do not want you here. Go back to your gangster people gassing Handler, who ain't so disimilar to Hitler.

However, there is ample MSM journalism relating to GCHQ spying on Trump.

I KNOW they did. It is true. The British did, way out of line, spy on Trump. There are ample MSM articles in the press relating to this if you bother to look.

You do not need to have these tools tell it to you with their crappy stupid lying counterfeit graphics. Here it is, you so easily led troll bait:

www.theguardian.com...

www.telegraph.co.uk...

www.telegraph.co.uk...

thehill.com...

www.reuters.com...

uk.businessinsider.com...

There is never smoke without fire. Russians go away, Can somebody nuke these trolls. They are easy enough to spot. Yes, I think the British did spy on Trump. I do not think it was ordered by Obama though. I think it is just routine and I think there was lots of globalist bias involved against Trump, without a doubt. He has took away a lot of their ability to exploit the American economy. Sorry, but the leeches and parasites were sucking all the life out of America, as they do everywhere else. American has shed them all for a time. It is a good thing. Teach them a lesson not to be such vile parasites and such a greedy and nasty little global clique.

America, you must chastise Britain for this. They are behaving disgustingly in all ways right now; with YOU and with the EU. CUT them down to size. They are well out of order. Make them behave...or ELSE.

It was way down what Britain and GCHQ did. It is a CRIME. It should actually be punished. If I was the boss I would be PUNISHING lots of people for this.

Punish away. Save democracy. Keep the Russians OUT. Putin, Putin, Putin, OUT! OUT! OUT you democracy destroying DEMON.


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posted on Jan, 24 2018 @ 05:01 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

I have calmed down now.

Look, everyone was caught off guard. Trump was, Hillary was, the U.S Security Services were, Facebook were, Twitter were, Joe public was, Wikileaks was. There are scandals with them all. This thing they all have in common is that it is a scandal manufactured byyyyy...THE RUSKIES. Tell dem, Mr Reagan.

Why is THAT???

Think, dammit!

It is because it is NEW technology, new kind of espionage. Putin got the better of you all. He did not me. I saw him coming a mile off and I never had anything to do with Wikileaks, not even in the early days, because I knew the Russians were going to use them. Nee nee nee nee neee, Putin. You never got me. I am too clever for you. I don't do Facebook and Twitter memes when I make my mind up at election time. I look at the hard facts in the cold light of day, EVERY TIME. So should you all. In a democracy we are all responsible for the mistakes we make and we surely pay a price if we make the wrong choices and must learn the hard way.

Okay you fools, you have learned your lesson the hard way. Now you must put it right and guard democracy properly. Yes, that means strong military and very strong indeed Security Service, not working against each other as allies, but for each other as allies...AS ALLIES, seen?

Allies means friends, Buster Bloodvessel. It means FRIENDS, like the U.S sit com!

Putin is laughing at you all and I am, too. Watch out for Russia. How many #ing times have I told you how clever Russians are? How good are Russians at Chess and Tech...like very my dear "ass"inine jackasses.

Eee owww goes the donkey as he learns his stiff lesson and gets a stick on his flank from my nasty little wit.

I warn you again: Watch out for Vlad The Impaler Mr Putin Judo Expert. He is seriously bright. You lot come and go in your bickering, every few years. Putin is ALWAYS there, every ready and ever sure. Will you ever understand this or will you one day fall because of your own blindness and dumb blonde politics?

Winston would turn in his grave at you lot, really he would.

I say this to the West: If you turn people into uneducated monkeys like you do then why are you so puzzled when the monkey behaves like a monkey and does stupid things? Think about that. If you educate people and treat them properly they will grow strong and be capable of discerning and analytical thought processes. They will see the blunderbus coming.

Do you understand my words or should I chatter?:




edit on 24-1-2018 by Revolution9 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 24 2018 @ 05:26 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

That's pretty obvious that England being a socialist country and their affiliation with the UN/NWO they are underhanded enough to pull this off,criminals working hand to hand



posted on Jan, 24 2018 @ 05:31 AM
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a reply to: carewemust




AboveTopSecret.com is a conspiracy discussion website. When was the last time we were directed to discuss only those things that were proven as authentic


And yet when I say this....



posted on Jan, 24 2018 @ 05:46 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

Yeah there's a reason they don't want to provide the proof for their "memo"...



posted on Jan, 24 2018 @ 06:22 AM
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originally posted by: Oldtimer2
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

That's pretty obvious that England being a socialist country and their affiliation with the UN/NWO they are underhanded enough to pull this off,criminals working hand to hand



1) You mean the United Kingdom, not England.

2) The UK is not a socialist country. The UK has a far-right Conservative government.

(Before that we had a center-right New Labour government. The Uk has not had a socialist government since... Harold Wilson?)



posted on Jan, 24 2018 @ 06:38 AM
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I agree that ATS need a new sub forum for threads such as Q and this one. Call it alt-right fan fiction.
40 flags for a Hoax thread, talk about echo chamber



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