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Why can't America ever finish their dam wars?!!

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posted on Jan, 23 2018 @ 08:33 PM
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Why can't America ever finish their dam wars?!!

Not going to include any wars that has Native Indians because it was genocide and Americans won. Opium don't count either because it was for abusing drug trade and US was barely in it.

Revolutionary war.
Let me get this straight. Independent from the British they say. Freedom they say. Then why the hell is British Imperialism still alive? Why is America allied to Britain?

American Civil War, a war to end Slavery.
A war to end slavery they say. Freedom they say. Why is slavery rising? How come its still here? Even in America human trafficking is still up which ends in slavery. KKK alive and confederates were still alive.

Spanish-American War
A war to end Spanish colonization or competition. Freedom they say. Then why the heck does US doesn't seem to want to let Philippines go(US-Philippine war) until Duterte said GTFO. Why does Spain still have a god dam king? Why is Cuba constantly threatened?

WW2
The war to end the Third Reich/Nazism Genocide and other form of Imperialism. Freedom they say. Then why is the Japanese Emperor still in the throne? While the Chinese one left the throne? Why do we still have Nazis running around?

Any other war was not necessary after that except the fall of Soviet Union. Could've left Asia to Asians instead of getting involved with Civil Wars.
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posted on Jan, 23 2018 @ 08:42 PM
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Money

If the wars stop so does the money. We are still in Afghanistan and it has been 16 years. Any good reason why we are still there?



posted on Jan, 23 2018 @ 08:48 PM
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Dam Wars. It's like Cake Wars, but in this reality show teams of builders and engineers compete over who can build the best dam.



posted on Jan, 23 2018 @ 09:04 PM
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Why does Big Pharma only treat symptoms instead of curing the disease? Money and greed, however, you are definitely oversimplifying many of you’re examples.
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posted on Jan, 23 2018 @ 09:04 PM
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Why? Well for one thing a war isn't about annihilating the opponent. War is about achieving the goals you desire.

Revolutionary War- Victory was achieved. Independence from Britain achieved -Goal met.

Civil War - Slavery? Umm no.... great PR sure. But it was about the industrialized North securing the "material rich" South.
Goals met.

I could break down the others, but I think the point is made.

War is not "to the death" . That is called genocide. War is about power projection, ideology and economics (mainly economics since the late 20th.)



posted on Jan, 23 2018 @ 09:30 PM
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As a vague question, war profiteers make more profits from wars, the build up to new wars, and the cleanup & stabilization efforts after previous wars. Ending the warring cycle would cut into the war-based economy.

As for your specific examples:
1. The United States achieved its goal of independence in the American Revolutionary War. The goal wasn't to take down imperialism of any form, much less to make eternal enemies with Great Britain.

2. The American Civil War only lasted for 4 years and it succeeded in forcing the States to stay together as a union. So the war did end.

2a. The KKK was actually started after the Civil War ended.

2b. Not only was the Civil War not a war of extermination, but nearly all of the confederates were given a blanket amnesty after the war ended (Proclamation 179). And confederacy related stuff was never banned after the Civil War (unlike how Nazism was banned in Germany after WW2), hence why confederacy-related literature and materials are still around today.

2c. The 13th Amendment ended slavery in the US except in the case of imprisonment. But don't you think it's kind of naive to assume that everyone in the world is going to stop exploiting other people just because of some words on a piece of paper?

3. How did the US not conclude the Spanish-American War? That war had nothing to do with ending the Spanish royalty; Cuba later had a communist revolution which changed our dynamic there; etc. Civilization doesn't stop just because the goals of a specific war were achieved.

4. WW2 wasn't a war to end imperialism. If anything, it was the Cold War that saw the end of most of the world's empires. In fact, the US tried to help France regain its former colony "French Indochina" (modern day Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia) after WW2 ended, which was the cause of the 1st and 2nd Indochina Wars (the 2nd's known as the Vietnam War in the US).

4a. The Japanese Emperor was basically a living deity in Imperial Japan. It's not a stretch to say the entire nation would've fought to the last man to protect the Emperor's life. So a compromise was made where the Emperor was allowed to stay in a reduced position of power as long as he declared an end to Japanese war efforts. Japan then became an ally.

4b. China was in the middle of a civil war during WW2. The Chinese communists were fighting against the pro-Western govt (look into the Opium Wars and the Unequal Treaties to understand this point). The Japanese invaded China which led to the communist rebels and govt forces making a temporary ceasefire so they could collectively drive out the Japanese. After the Japanese were kicked out, the communists and govt continued their war. The communists won, the pro-western govt exiled to Taiwan, and the next phase began.

As for this:


Any other war was not necessary after that except the fall of Soviet Union. Could've left Asia to Asians instead of getting involved with Civil Wars.

Uh, you should probably look into the Cold War & decolonization. It's too complex to give a vague, blanket answer.
edit on 23-1-2018 by enlightenedservant because: clarified something. hmph



posted on Jan, 23 2018 @ 09:57 PM
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Because they wouldnt make any money .



posted on Jan, 23 2018 @ 10:01 PM
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You think human trafficking is limited to America?
Your ignorance is cute,human trafficking is every where,just because you are too blind to see it elsewhere does not mean it doesn't exist.



posted on Jan, 23 2018 @ 10:06 PM
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To "protect" the worlds biggest opium agriculture ?






posted on Jan, 23 2018 @ 10:22 PM
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Why can't America ever finish their dam wars?!!


It's attention deficit. We get bored easily.



posted on Jan, 23 2018 @ 10:28 PM
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Wars aren't meant to solve problems. Especially nowadays, they're merely military occupations.

Ever notice the "war" in Afghanistan lasted twice as long as WWII?



posted on Jan, 23 2018 @ 10:38 PM
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originally posted by: Cutepants
a reply to: makemap

Dam Wars. It's like Cake Wars, but in this reality show teams of builders and engineers compete over who can build the best dam.
The beavers are going to win.



posted on Jan, 24 2018 @ 12:17 AM
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It's hard to sell bombs when there is no one to bomb.



posted on Jan, 24 2018 @ 12:25 AM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: makemap


Money

If the wars stop so does the money. We are still in Afghanistan and it has been 16 years. Any good reason why we are still there?


Heroin.

That place isnt about never ending reconstruction projects and the like in the ways the other never ending sites are. Afghanistan was always about the dope.
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posted on Jan, 24 2018 @ 12:41 AM
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originally posted by: makemap
Then why the hell is British Imperialism still alive? Why is America allied to Britain?

As I understand it, that war was not fought to exterminate the British. Just for America not to be ruled by British monarchs. Achieved

A war to end slavery they say.

No, just the legal toleration of slavery in America. Achieved.

A war to end Spanish colonization or competition.

Well, the Spanish colonies came to an end. Achieved.

Why does Spain still have a god dam king?

Because they want one; freedom for Spain means giving Spain what the Spanish want. As I understand it, the Spanish-American warwas not fought for purpose of ending monarchy in Spain, or ending monarchy in any countries at all.

Why is Cuba constantly threatened?
Not bythe Spanish. Objective of Spanish-American war still achieved.

Why do we still have Nazis running around?

The war could only be fought to remove Nazis from the rule of Germany. Achieved. No war is capable of ending the existence of people with bad opinions.



posted on Jan, 24 2018 @ 02:42 AM
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i like how everyone simply accepts the US is a warmachine and casually brush it off whilst every other country is the threat to civilization...

the real question for the op is when was the last time as a colony, nation, or government, the US wasn't actively engaged in a war?

when was the last time the US was completely at peace with other countries?



posted on Jan, 24 2018 @ 05:32 AM
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The reason they go to war is to control a country,as soon as they take over their natural resources,then they leave military for "peace keeping" it's all about money,the govt could care less about race or religion



posted on Jan, 24 2018 @ 05:36 AM
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Read 1981 or watch the movie.
But seriously tho, most wars are just continuous business from yrs gone by with different names, the so-called war on terror is nothing but a carry over from the Crusades, sometimes folks for got the roots of such conflict so old it's origins,
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posted on Jan, 24 2018 @ 06:27 AM
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Some good answers here. One thing I'd add is, the war in Afghanistan can't be won because we've already lost.

We're just still there because successive leaders just can't admit that we lost. It's politically embarrassing to say we lost, all those lives wasted, all that money spent, all those lives still being wasted.

One of the things I actually give Trump credit for, in the Fire and Fury book, is when he's talking in disbelief to the Generals in charge of Afghanistan, and they just have no strategy at all, and Trump was reportedly furious with them that this whole pointless sham was still going on.

But sadly Trump couldn't come out and say okay, we're just getting out of Afghanistan, we lost, it's pointless.



posted on Jan, 24 2018 @ 08:19 AM
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Because Israel wants us to keep killing Arabs for them.

google "9/11 purim children" is all you need to know



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