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Traitor "Ward Churchill met with Gadhafi"

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posted on Feb, 15 2005 @ 11:31 AM
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Originally posted by syntaxer
We definantly should hold those who conduct in treasonous acts accountable. Direct relationships with all known terrorists, rogue regimes, islamic fundalmentalist tyranny driven dictorships should all be punished by your means of capital punishment DrHoracid. A 9mm to the head right? Especially when we directly deal arms to these international villians.





Yes, put a glock in Rummy's hand so he can get Saddam.............




posted on Feb, 15 2005 @ 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by DrHoracid
Yes, put a glock in Rummy's hand so he can get Saddam.............


Funny..

But on a serious note. If you're seeking to persecute the little "fish" in Ward Churchill, a simple US citizen for acts treason.

Why not harpoon the whale while you're at it?

By the way, Rummy hand was too busy shaking maddaS hand


[edit on 15-2-2005 by syntaxer]



posted on Feb, 15 2005 @ 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by DrHoracid

Originally posted by Nerdling
Traitor? Thats a little strong

Libya was bombed in 1986. April 15th if you want to be exact.

Don't beat on the man for saying something you don't like, he has the right to free speech and to his highly esoteric viewpoints.

Just don't listen to him.


I don't care what he 'says". His link to bombs and the weathermen, and a trip to Lybia is what's wrong. His big mouth just got people looking.

This guy could be another "unibomber"...............


What link? How about you give us some evidence.

So he met Khadafi... and...?



posted on Feb, 15 2005 @ 11:47 AM
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Originally posted by Nerdling

Originally posted by DrHoracid

Originally posted by Nerdling
Traitor? Thats a little strong

Libya was bombed in 1986. April 15th if you want to be exact.

Don't beat on the man for saying something you don't like, he has the right to free speech and to his highly esoteric viewpoints.

Just don't listen to him.


I don't care what he 'says". His link to bombs and the weathermen, and a trip to Lybia is what's wrong. His big mouth just got people looking.

This guy could be another "unibomber"...............


What link? How about you give us some evidence.

So he met Khadafi... and...?


Already gave a link, still research other "wardisims"..........

Heres some good ones.......

"Gunny Bob notes that in the same 1987 Denver Post report, Professor Churchill admitted to being a bomb-building and weapons instructor for the Weather Underground, a domestic terrorist group active in the 1970s."

and

"Using his own sources and calling upon the investigative skills of FOX News Channel’s Rita Cosby, Mr. Newman was able to verify that Professor Churchill, despite his public claim (in a 1987 Denver Post interview) of having been a paratrooper (Airborne qualified) who conducted long-range reconnaissance patrols (LRRPs; extremely dangerous missions conducted by some of the most elite soldiers in the US Army) hunting North Vietnamese in Vietnam during and after the Tet Offensive of 1968, and despite his claim that he was a point man in an infantry combat unit, was in fact trained only as a jeep driver and projectionist (he was trained to operate film-strip machines and movie projectors), according to official documentation from the National Personnel Records Center, the US repository for military records.

Denver attorneys Dan Caplis and Craig Silverman, both colleagues of Mr. Newman at Clear Channel Colorado, then acquired Professor Churchill’s original resume that resulted in his being hired by the University of Colorado. That resume matched exactly the resume Gunny Bob had acquired from his confidential source. On that resume, Professor Churchill cited no combat experience whatsoever, no Airborne training, no infantry training or experience and no winning of the Combat Infantry Badge. Instead, it said his experience in Vietnam consisted of his duties as a “Public Information Specialist,” as which he “wrote and edited the battalion newsletter and wrote news releases.”

www.mensnewsdaily.com...

This guy was "teaching" somewhere? He's a menace...........



posted on Feb, 15 2005 @ 12:02 PM
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Originally posted by syntaxer
We definantly should hold those who conduct in treasonous acts accountable. Direct relationships with all known terrorists, rogue regimes, islamic fundalmentalist tyranny driven dictorships should all be punished by your means of capital punishment DrHoracid. A 9mm to the head right? Especially when we directly deal arms to these international villians.





But now I'm ROTFLMAO. You beat me to this one! I guess we should be selective in who we accuse of terrorism.

Terrorist...what terrorist????

Reap What You Sow

NEW YORK, Aug. 24, 1998 — At the CIA, it happens often enough to have a code name: Blowback. Simply defined, this is the term that describes an agent, an operative or an operation that has turned on its creators. Osama bin Laden, our new public enemy Number 1, is the personification of blowback. And the fact that he is viewed as a hero by millions in the Islamic world proves again the old adage: Reap what you sow.



posted on Feb, 15 2005 @ 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
there very well could have
been a moritorium on Americans traveling there.

I thought it was undisputed that there was infact a ban on travel there?


What
business could he have possibly had with a terrorist
leader?

He sought to promote his own parochial agenda, that is recognition of US government wrongdoing with respect to native american tribes. By going to libya, he gets in the paper. By calling victims of 911 nazis, he gets in the paper. By provoking people on the right into calling him a traitor and setting up a villification campaign, he exposes and puts light on a rather silly and moderately underhanded practice on the part of the right, thus making the right look, well, stupid and reactionary and more than willing to prosecute a person when they are in disagreement with them. For example, I don't recall vast swaths of the right asking that he be arrested in the early 80's no?

IOW, persecuting him is his goal, he hypothesized a reaction, is probably prepared for it, and will turn it to suit his own pruposes.


djohnsto77
think Ward Churchill said he was traveling as a citizen of an Indian nation which made it a muddy legal issue

I suspect that that must've also been the case.

But new evidence calls into question whether Churchill is actually an indian at all

There can be no question, the cherokee nation made him an honourary cherokee. That means that he need not be a cherokee, he could be from baluchistan for all it matters, he'd still be a cherokee. There's nothing 'new' about that standing or this matter. Its all hype, comming from certain segments of the right that have been provoked by this guy. I'm not 'blamming' the right keep in mind, the guy is scum, using death to promote his own personal agenda, thus holding back his cause even more so.


drhoracid
This "person" (personal edit to avoid warn).

Its ok, you can call him a #head and just turn of the censors so you can see it.

He is obviously a subversive and perhaps should be on the domestic terror list.

Absurd. You are amazingly stumbling directly into the man's trap. Hell, you've triggered it completely. Instead of a lunatic scumbag, he's now a 'dissident' being hounded by rabid rightists. You, and some of the others, have to know that the public, even tho disgusted with him, is going to be more disgusted with doing what you suggest, using new federal powers to silence and prosecute people who disagree with the mainstream. Heck, you're even modifying our understanding of the past to make what he did then a crime that he should be punished for now.


This should qualify him as a domestic terrorist.

Indeed, but not traveling to libya, not calling victims nazis, and not merely for disagreeing with the general sentiment of the public. And it should've been done then, not now, its only an issue now because of his recent statements. I agree, anyone teaching a terror group to build bombs is a terrorist, de facto. But be rational, not reactionary. In doing so, by being predictable, you've made yourself into a tool, a tool and method to further the loon's cause.


flyers fan
MAN! First Libya and now the Weathermen.

And now a potential 'subversive' who stated something unpopular and disgusting is made out to be an international terrorist, the great enemy that the country does indeed face. Tragic.


drhoracid
Ruby ridge, waco, game over.

Why should anyone care about those terrorists?



posted on Feb, 15 2005 @ 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by Nygdan

drhoracid
Ruby ridge, waco, game over.

Why should anyone care about those terrorists?


Ruby Ridge and Waco were not about domestic terrorisim, it was about an executive branch out of control. You're not stupid You know danm well what those incidents were about. Ruby Ridge happened under NWO bush 41, and Waco under "billary". But the same FBI superviser was on both.



posted on Feb, 15 2005 @ 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by syntaxer

Originally posted by DrHoracid
Yes, put a glock in Rummy's hand so he can get Saddam.............


Funny..

But on a serious note. If you're seeking to persecute the little "fish" in Ward Churchill, a simple US citizen for acts treason.

Why not harpoon the whale while you're at it?

By the way, Rummy hand was too busy shaking maddaS hand


[edit on 15-2-2005 by syntaxer]


Clinton and Monica have both lost weight, why call them whales?



posted on Feb, 15 2005 @ 01:51 PM
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Doesn't this # belong on the politics board (if anywhere)? In fact, why doesn't someone just take away Horacid's access to this board and just confine him to Politics@ATS?

But then you might start complaining about someone taking away you right to free speech, eh?



posted on Feb, 15 2005 @ 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by DrHoracid
You're not stupid You know danm well what those incidents were about.

Yep. Dangerous lunatics who had holled themselves up, armed to the teeth as paramilitaries in private compounds. Thankfully they were destroyed. Hopefully some of the other militias and their 'christian identity'movement comrades will be wiped out before long.

Anyway, if this churchill (man does that smear a perfectly good name) nutter is a terrorist for teaching weather underground how to make bombs, or for meeting with qaddafi, then those ruby ridge and especially those Branch Davidian lunatics certainly were too. Heck, they're more dangerous, what with the OK Bombing.



posted on Feb, 15 2005 @ 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by Nygdan

Originally posted by DrHoracid
You're not stupid You know danm well what those incidents were about.

Yep. Dangerous lunatics who had holled themselves up, armed to the teeth as paramilitaries in private compounds. Thankfully they were destroyed. Hopefully some of the other militias and their 'christian identity'movement comrades will be wiped out before long.

Anyway, if this churchill (man does that smear a perfectly good name) nutter is a terrorist for teaching weather underground how to make bombs, or for meeting with qaddafi, then those ruby ridge and especially those Branch Davidian lunatics certainly were too. Heck, they're more dangerous, what with the OK Bombing.


Alright I can't let that go by, how was Ruby and Waco connected to OK City? Please enlighten me.

Wardy, (won't smear winston with his name) is a nut.



posted on Feb, 15 2005 @ 03:26 PM
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i'm with you on this one too, doctor!

prosecute everybody that is in any connection with this world famous terrorist gaddafi!
he was also seen with this guy (on the right mister berlusconi), so i suggest we also get rid of this guy too.
he IS also a real threat to this world, many people will confirm that!



friggin' terrorist supporters!



posted on Feb, 15 2005 @ 03:52 PM
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Originally posted by DrHoracid
how was Ruby and Waco connected to OK City?

Oh not directly obviously, anyone should see that. But the OK bombers did it on the anniversary of the waco event and did so in the name of it, its all part of the extreme right christian identity paramilitia movement. Certainly as well aligned as, say, al-zarqawi and other 'osama inspired' terror cells, nad possibly more so, if you consider that they didn't do it alone and the american militia movement is smaller than the international jihad movement. They might be more like the al-qaida-abu sayeff linkage.



posted on Feb, 16 2005 @ 05:38 AM
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Originally posted by Nygdan

Originally posted by DrHoracid
how was Ruby and Waco connected to OK City?

Oh not directly obviously, anyone should see that. But the OK bombers did it on the anniversary of the waco event and did so in the name of it, its all part of the extreme right christian identity paramilitia movement. Certainly as well aligned as, say, al-zarqawi and other 'osama inspired' terror cells, nad possibly more so, if you consider that they didn't do it alone and the american militia movement is smaller than the international jihad movement. They might be more like the al-qaida-abu sayeff linkage.


OK, does anyone remember that John Doe 3 looked exactly like Jose Padilla who is currently in Gitmo as a terrorist trying to build a dirty bomb? OK City was and is a muslim incident.

Based on current world events, perhaps, the "rightwing" religious "nuts" were right. Lets list a few..........

Islamic terror
Anti-God agenda of the left
MAD COW, PRIONS
Rapid onset AIDS
Hollywood (the sodom of this era)
Nuts like Wardy teaching kids complete lies............


Maybe living in a closed compound, growing your own food isn't a bad idea.



posted on Feb, 16 2005 @ 08:30 AM
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Originally posted by DrHoracid
OK City was and is a muslim incident.

Mcveigh and Nichols were not muslim. They admited to it. They detailed what happened. Why would muslims attack OK City on the aniversary of waco? You might as well be saying tha tthe Branch Davidians are a muslims sect and Koresh was the Mahdi.

Maybe living in a closed compound, growing your own food isn't a bad idea.

Sure, they can isolate themselves, but they can't build paramilitary armies and network with domestic terrorists.



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