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Trump supporters, youre NOT understanding your man.

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posted on Jan, 22 2018 @ 11:11 PM
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Im just going to say a few things, and I think that people who are so very pro Trump need to understand, absorb, and put into practice if we are ever to make a change in anything.

Trump, loves to be liked, loves to be supported, loves to be fawned over.

Have you noticed, that what he does, what he says, seems to sway with the public opinion on him, he tends to change the message he delivers.

The far left knows this, thats why they keep doing what they do, hes President ADD and they have flashing lights and noise makers , and they know it.

I dislike Trump Strongly

But I will say this. The man LOVES his base. He does. But here is your problem.


You are being as ADD about the issues as he is. Trump is so busy trying to be "liked" that hes pandering left and right. yes hes getting SOME things done, sort of, but have you noticed they kinda get only 1/3 of the way done if any? He goes hard then stops then moves to another subject?

Thats because he wants his majority to like him, if he feels most of America doesnt HE SHIFTS. He DESPERATELY wants to be liked and seen positive...

THAT being said, you want Trump to follow through heres a step by step plan:

1. Pick an area you want done first, addressed, or other wise resolved.
2. Express your urgency for this, dont waiver, dont get distracted by all the other BS, even by his own rhetoric.
3. HAMMER HIM with it, hold him accountable, dont let his A.D.D for Twitter feuds or anything else distract you, KEEP HIM ON TASK
4. See that he follows it through to its END before diverting him to something else.

Im telling you, as someone who isnt even a Trump supporter I can see these things about Trump. And if you look at how things are being played out you can see for yourself that hes intentionally being distracted and pulled in different directions.

But Donald DESPERATELY , wants to be liked and supported by his base.

IF you want all those things you voted for, DIRECT him and stop distracting him, or letting him get distracted and hold him accountable.

Just a little piece of advice from an old , observant, nonpartisan guy
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posted on Jan, 22 2018 @ 11:16 PM
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I don't believe you

Jerry
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posted on Jan, 22 2018 @ 11:17 PM
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originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: SailorJerry

I don't believe you


I dont care

These people actually have a president that for once ACTUALLY wants to be liked and though of well. Make no mistake ITS NOT FOR THEM, its for his own hubris and ego.

But that is what he strives for, to make himself feel mighty.

And in that ONE way , they actually have a chance to get something done.

Dont believe me look at DACA and how he changed his views on that, HE WANTS to be supported.

He was so hardlined on that before (just like everything else) you wouldnt think he would move.......now look at us, were negotiating

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posted on Jan, 22 2018 @ 11:19 PM
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originally posted by: SailorJerry
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I dislike Trump Strongly

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Just a little piece of advice from an old , observant, nonpartisan guy


Nice try, but I read the entire thing....and these two statements of yours are counter to each other. So therefore, your suggestion is nullified.



posted on Jan, 22 2018 @ 11:20 PM
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Trump wants to keep the major campaign promises made to his original base. The 49% of Americans who voted for him.

After Trump tax-cuts became law, his base started growing significantly. All of those who are thankful for the pay-raise, are now added to his base.



posted on Jan, 22 2018 @ 11:20 PM
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a reply to: SailorJerry


What politician doesn't want "desperately to be liked by their base"? Their fan base is how they get into power, so pandering is what they have to do. Trump may seem like an "outsider" but that's only because his campaign platform is based off of that



posted on Jan, 22 2018 @ 11:22 PM
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a reply to: SailorJerry

That's seems like a fair assessment, one thing that bothers me is the budget, it's all for short term gain, the new investment is all debt based and has no long term viability. In 4 to 5 years when the incentive for investment is no longer there we will see the mess for what it is, also the government will now be getting less tax money and somehow will have to find more money, gonna need to fire up the printing press.



posted on Jan, 22 2018 @ 11:22 PM
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originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: SailorJerry
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I dislike Trump Strongly

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Just a little piece of advice from an old , observant, nonpartisan guy


Nice try, but I read the entire thing....and these two statements of yours are counter to each other. So therefore, your suggestion is nullified.



Then you cant quite grasp the whole concept of the post can you?

I laid out how he is able to be manipulated, and that is NOT partisan.

The man WANTS to be loved , liked, adored and respected.

It WILL be by his base, or his opponents.

He has a strong need, to be supported, period

How bout debate the points in my post instead



posted on Jan, 22 2018 @ 11:24 PM
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Hating Trump is typical amongst the dems. Not surprised in the least. People forget the race dividing Obama and his motley crue pushed and so, the brainwashing will take time to reverse. People just need someone to hate, and trump is the bait.


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posted on Jan, 22 2018 @ 11:25 PM
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I dislike Trump Strongly


And you expect Trump supporters to take your advice seriously?


Seriously?




posted on Jan, 22 2018 @ 11:29 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
Trump wants to keep the major campaign promises made to his original base. The 49% of Americans who voted for him.

After Trump tax-cuts became law, his base started growing significantly. All of those who are thankful for the pay-raise, are now added to his base.


Trump has deviated from those promises almost 100 percent, because he percieved that he could leverage some others and do other things.

Hillary? In jail right? Came out and said he wouldnt pursue it.

NATO, what happened with that?

Wall built by mexico? Now it might only be a little bit of a wall and were gonna pay for it.

Obamacare? Really?

Now Im not saying he HASNT done anything because hes done some GREAT things in my eyes.

My point is, the things he HAS done are the things that he was able to do with out much blow back.

As soon as it comes to things where people might not "like him" he starts haggling.....

His supporters need to speak up, and stop being YES men, and start having a back bone and checking him on the things he says.

Point blank



posted on Jan, 22 2018 @ 11:30 PM
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originally posted by: SailorJerry

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: SailorJerry
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I dislike Trump Strongly

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Just a little piece of advice from an old , observant, nonpartisan guy


Nice try, but I read the entire thing....and these two statements of yours are counter to each other. So therefore, your suggestion is nullified.



Then you cant quite grasp the whole concept of the post can you?

I laid out how he is able to be manipulated, and that is NOT partisan.

The man WANTS to be loved , liked, adored and respected.

It WILL be by his base, or his opponents.

He has a strong need, to be supported, period

How bout debate the points in my post instead


Because I could apply those points to ANY politician or anyone seeking to be elected in a position of power. That is not new information, it goes back thousands of years.

You also stated as appearing as fact that the president has ADD. Are you his doctor? Are you qualified to make that diagnosis? My guess is the answer to each of those is no.
You also state that focusing upon one issue is the key to a successful president. That shows your woeful lack of understanding of that position. That position demands playing whack-a-mole with the issues. You may be visiting a natural disaster area now, and in an hour be approving a military action across the planet, followed by calling senators and reps to get them to support an issue that is within the needs of the country.

So, you see all your points are irrelevant except the two I highlighted. Those were the only two that were worth the effort to address that were accurate.

I stand by my previous assessment.



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posted on Jan, 22 2018 @ 11:31 PM
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The mess left behind in Washington DC.










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posted on Jan, 22 2018 @ 11:31 PM
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originally posted by: SailorJerry

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: SailorJerry
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I dislike Trump Strongly

...
Just a little piece of advice from an old , observant, nonpartisan guy


Nice try, but I read the entire thing....and these two statements of yours are counter to each other. So therefore, your suggestion is nullified.



Then you cant quite grasp the whole concept of the post can you?

I laid out how he is able to be manipulated, and that is NOT partisan.

The man WANTS to be loved , liked, adored and respected.

It WILL be by his base, or his opponents.

He has a strong need, to be supported, period

How bout debate the points in my post instead


i just dont even know where to begin. so now trumps bad cause he supposedly needs to be liked according to what reality exactly? have u not seen how he goads people who dont like him? purposely stoking the flames of their ire over and over? we have post after post about how divisive trump is yet apparently his overwhelming need is to be liked meanwhile theres people protesting in streets over tweets but thats done cause he needs to be liked.... atleast hes not kneeling the world over so as to be "liked"



posted on Jan, 22 2018 @ 11:31 PM
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originally posted by: ausername
a reply to: SailorJerry




I dislike Trump Strongly


And you expect Trump supporters to take your advice seriously?


Seriously?



If they have any virtue of actual TRUTH , yeah I do.

If they base their direction soley on TRUMP regardless of any truth, then no , probably not.

But you cant sit here and tell me youre a Trump supporter and supporter of whats right and wrong and Truth and actually SEE TRUTH, and then poopoo me for it.

Thats not objective, thats not TRUTH , thats blind ideology.



posted on Jan, 22 2018 @ 11:33 PM
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originally posted by: TheScale

originally posted by: SailorJerry

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: SailorJerry
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I dislike Trump Strongly

...
Just a little piece of advice from an old , observant, nonpartisan guy


Nice try, but I read the entire thing....and these two statements of yours are counter to each other. So therefore, your suggestion is nullified.



Then you cant quite grasp the whole concept of the post can you?

I laid out how he is able to be manipulated, and that is NOT partisan.

The man WANTS to be loved , liked, adored and respected.

It WILL be by his base, or his opponents.

He has a strong need, to be supported, period

How bout debate the points in my post instead


i just dont even know where to begin. so now trumps bad cause he supposedly needs to be liked according to what reality exactly? have u not seen how he goads people who dont like him? purposely stoking the flames of their ire over and over? we have post after post about how divisive trump is yet apparently his overwhelming need is to be liked meanwhile theres people protesting in streets over tweets but thats done cause he needs to be liked.... atleast hes not kneeling the world over so as to be "liked"


Its pretty simple honestly. how you dont get it I cant comprehend.

But I can tell you that those who are the COMPLETE opposite of anything you believe do understand.

Thats why theres not gonna be a full wall built, thats why DACA is happening before the wall, thats why hes making all the compromises you wont admit you dont like.



posted on Jan, 22 2018 @ 11:33 PM
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originally posted by: SailorJerry

originally posted by: carewemust
Trump wants to keep the major campaign promises made to his original base. The 49% of Americans who voted for him.

After Trump tax-cuts became law, his base started growing significantly. All of those who are thankful for the pay-raise, are now added to his base.


Trump has deviated from those promises almost 100 percent, because he percieved that he could leverage some others and do other things.

Hillary? In jail right? Came out and said he wouldnt pursue it.

NATO, what happened with that?

Wall built by mexico? Now it might only be a little bit of a wall and were gonna pay for it.

Obamacare? Really?

Now Im not saying he HASNT done anything because hes done some GREAT things in my eyes.

My point is, the things he HAS done are the things that he was able to do with out much blow back.

As soon as it comes to things where people might not "like him" he starts haggling.....

His supporters need to speak up, and stop being YES men, and start having a back bone and checking him on the things he says.
Point blank


so in essence join the "resistance" if u havent noticed there has been a pushback on practically every fricken thing hes tried to do while in office by both parties. so what your asking for is everyone to fight him i guess. u get wackier with each post



posted on Jan, 22 2018 @ 11:34 PM
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a reply to: BotheLumberJack

When Bush left office, we lambasted Obama for the blame game.

As an actual REAL conservative, I hold you to the same standard

Obama isnt in office anymore (Bush is no longer president)
Obama is responsible for his own actions and policies (Trump is responsible for his own actions and policies)


STOP BLAMING PAST ADMINISTRATINOS AND NUT UP!
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posted on Jan, 22 2018 @ 11:34 PM
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originally posted by: SailorJerry

originally posted by: TheScale

originally posted by: SailorJerry

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: SailorJerry
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I dislike Trump Strongly

...
Just a little piece of advice from an old , observant, nonpartisan guy


Nice try, but I read the entire thing....and these two statements of yours are counter to each other. So therefore, your suggestion is nullified.



Then you cant quite grasp the whole concept of the post can you?

I laid out how he is able to be manipulated, and that is NOT partisan.

The man WANTS to be loved , liked, adored and respected.

It WILL be by his base, or his opponents.

He has a strong need, to be supported, period

How bout debate the points in my post instead


i just dont even know where to begin. so now trumps bad cause he supposedly needs to be liked according to what reality exactly? have u not seen how he goads people who dont like him? purposely stoking the flames of their ire over and over? we have post after post about how divisive trump is yet apparently his overwhelming need is to be liked meanwhile theres people protesting in streets over tweets but thats done cause he needs to be liked.... atleast hes not kneeling the world over so as to be "liked"


Its pretty simple honestly. how you dont get it I cant comprehend.

But I can tell you that those who are the COMPLETE opposite of anything you believe do understand.

Thats why theres not gonna be a full wall built, thats why DACA is happening before the wall, thats why hes making all the compromises you wont admit you dont like.


thats what good leaders do. monarchs and rulers impose laws on people without making concessions and being reasonable and trying to make it work for all parties. u lack common sense



posted on Jan, 22 2018 @ 11:39 PM
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Guess what? Obama and Bush had the same agenda that nearly every other President had. They were in kahoots. Obama was a nobody, someone no one even heard about before he suddenly gained the up as a big star among movie stars and the like. Why? because it's easier to control puppets than people like Trump who won't bow to the puppet masters.

Now you know.

How does one nut up? lmao.
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