Homeschooling does it need more regulation?

Just let them be.

USA Public schools are awful. Check the statistics. Compare us to other countries. You'll see it's awful. I have kids on elementary school. Common Core was hilariously terrible. Thank God my state ditched it. I can't wait to see what middle and high school of public education have in store. I'm still debating to put my kids in private school after elementary so they have a chance in this world.

a reply to: JAGStorm

I don't mind the idea of home schooling, I taught myself better than any teacher taught me.

For instance my tenth grade English teacher used to just sit in her chair the whole session-that's it (that's the public school system for you) After high school I learned more about writing in six days than I did in six months in English class.

I believe if you want to be a good home teacher you should make the learning experience fun and interactive. I remember learning about gravity from a bowling ball on a trampoline. Bowling? fun. Trampolines? fun. All the great physicists like Michio Kaku, Brian Greene, Ed Witten etc turn the most mundane things into a learning instrument. However Sexual education should be a joint venture between the parents and a doctor, not all babies are delivered by storks.

However the problem is with home schooling is the apprentice catches up with the master, so another master is needed, ergo school .Home schooling at a young age is not so bad, but as the child matures methinks they should seek out a tutor in the field they want to pursue.

a reply to: NerdGoddess

I do think online schooling will eventually become the norm.

Whether in a Public School class or at home.

Pennsylvania's Cyber school is headed in the right direction IMHO.

www.pacyber.org...

Kids get PCs, Printers, High-speed internet & licensed teachers live streamed. Usually all paid for using the citizens normal school taxes.

In my country there are private companies that use the same basic curriculum as the schools do,or very similar.Some kids finish their schooling a year or 2 before the average government or private school kids,some can take a year or 2 longer.I homeschool my son. I pay once a year a lump sum for a one year curriculum i.e grade 3/4 etc.As long as my kid finishes grade 12,i don't care if it takes a year longer than average.Spares both him and us a lot of bother,and a ton of money.He's a pretty well rounded kid and very happy with his life,which is my main priority.

a reply to: Thecakeisalie

Oh yes my son will definitely need a tutor for maths when he is older.My hubby works,so he is not often available to help with that.I think some older kids in the town do tutoring for pocket money.With everything else,he should be fine.He's 11 so he has no idea what type of career he may want in future.He mentioned chopper pilot but then all boys wanna be that at some stage

Unfortunately on the other hand, I know a far too many that have pulled their kids out, and have basically robbed them of even the most basic education.

Really?
You know?
Or know of, as in read about?
I can tell you that I actually know roughly 15-18 kids who are or were homeschooled, and the vast majority if them are seemingly above average performers.

a reply to: JAGStorm

At the same time, how many public schools turn out high school kids who only have a 4th grade education and how many public school kids get molested by their teachers?

You can talk about homeschooling and point fingers, but you can't pretend that public schools are all that great either. Many of them have horrible problems and fail the children too.

Ill say this from being a parent of 6 boys .
My skills are science and machine - programming
I totally failed at teaching even basic ABC .
And to me it is very very rare that you will find someone who teaching skills are so good they could teach any subject .

So if only the people with the skill home school it would be rare .
Ps relining of the web sites to teach ( say online classes well again it would be a rare parent and rare child who thrives in education in that environment .

My sister home schooled her daughter the daughter may or may not be well schooled as she became a house wife .
Hard to say the girl got fair grades but extremely limited and very hard socializing .

200 years agaio home schooling was possible then becoming a apprentice to who every making building what every was possible this is no longer the case as the markets change so fast that a master in 5 years no longer knows the new stuff .

want your kid to do more then be in services or labor better alest do tech school a lawyer we at home I do know one person who passed the bar learning at home took her ten years and its getting harder each day .

home school if you want or not 99 - out of 100 your kid will be lucky to even reach the lv of life you have .

a reply to: midnightstar

A lot of homeschoolers organize into coops where the parents teach their strengths and take it in turns so that a small group of children learn together and hopefully all the bases can be covered.

Husband and I have talked about possibly doing homeschooling for early years. I know I can cover most subjects in basic curricula and I have several years' experience both in classroom and one on one as a teacher. If we get more advanced, my professional expertise deals in language arts and his is math/science, so we'd still be pretty covered.

A lot of times, the best homeschoolers are learning right along with their children.

a reply to: Oaktree

Really, yes I do know.
I know these homeschooled kids, I am related to quite a number of them. I am also very close friends with parents of others. I think I have even more of an insiders look to the downfalls or benefits. I have heard things straight from the kids mouths. I also happen to know many teachers that share the same opinion. They would probably know better than all of us how unprepared these kids are.

I do not agree that they are above average performers. I think in some cases parents go above and beyond, those kids would do well in public, private or homeschooled. I do not think this is the norm for most homeschoolers.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
Unfortunately on the other hand, I know a far too many that have pulled their kids out, and have basically robbed them of even the most basic education.

Have you considered the possibility that some of those parents may know something that you don't?

Perhaps deep down inside many of them know that there really is a stealth agenda behind it all.

Take a look at my sig quote as well...



FYI: John Carrol was a Jesuit...

In time, the Jesuits entered the education system, especially that of the Protestants. The Jesuit maxim was: “Give us the education of the children of this day – and the next generation will be ours. Rev. W.C. Brownlee, D.D.

Secret instructions of the Jesuits

So was Stalin...

Stalin graduated as a Jesuit priest, with the assignment to infiltrate and manage the Georgian Underground Movement against the Russian Tsarist Government. Either way, we know he was Jesuit trained, and on mission to enforce the Jesuit doctrine of Communism throughout Russia.

A greatly suppressed fact is that the head of Stalin’s death camps in Siberia was none other than Cardinal Gregory Agagianian, his classmate at Tiflis. Together these sinister Roman Catholic classmates would kill tens of million of people in their death camps, far exceeding the casualties of Hitler in Germany. Sadly, this information has barely seen the light of day.

Exposing the Jesuits and the Papacy: Joseph Stalin was a Jesuit

As another man without a high school diploma, I discovered many years ago that the "educated" class is generally not educated at all, it is mis-educated. The whole purpose of American (perhaps all "western") "higher education" is obviously to bring minds into lock step with "The Agenda." As a general rule, the less official American education a person has been exposed to, the greater his/her ration of common sense.

"Education" is Spiritual Suicide

Modern course work in universities does not widen the scope of a student’s knowledge, it narrows it. It doesn’t cultivate wisdom. It cultivates ignorance. It doesn’t teach students to become independent and self-responsible citizens, rather, it conditions them to become more and more dependent upon the system of corporate employment and governmental assistance. It doesn’t encourage free thought and the questioning of external authority, but rather to accept unconditionally the official version of everything.

What today’s universities accomplish is to turn young students with malleable, questioning minds into rigid, unthinking drones destined to become cogs in the machinery of modern society, machinery that has been wholly devised and developed by none other than our aptly named Machine Men. In short, universities are institutional tools that manufacture unthinking and incurious machines – namely, graduates

wadevenden.wordpress.com...

"...the academic meltdown in our public education system is intentional. It asserts that change agents have been working at the Education Department to change curriculum, not to improve teaching but to promote a socialist agenda. Their role is to create schools which will mold obedient citizens who no longer have the knowledge and skills to improve their lot in life, but are dependent on government/multi-national companies' guidance to survive. The system will create imprisoned citizens that will be managed from cradle to grave to serve the needs of the state's managed economy."

Deliberate Dumbing Down of America

Only when all children in public, private and home schools are robotized-and believe as one-will World Government be acceptable to citizens and able to be implemented without firing a shot. The attractive-sounding "choice" proposals will enable the globalist elite to achieve their goal: the robotization (brainwashing) of all Americans in order to gain their acceptance of lifelong education and workforce training-part of the world management system to achieve a new global feudalism.

A 100 yr. Silent War on Education

a reply to: JAGStorm

My daughter is on the last leg of her senior year of public education.

Mostly, she's learned not to question authority, that boys are allowed to shove her and throw things at her because boys will be boys and they don't really mean anything by it, that teachers can date underage classmates as long as they are discreet and that parents don't know how to teach civic mindedness so the school must do it (this from the teacher who is dating an 16 year old girl). Once she got past the 7th grade, the "educational" part was utter rubbish.

Children that do well in public school are likely to do well or even better if home schooled.

As many have said here already, children that really want to get a good education and who are supported and assisted by their parents, are likely to do well either way.

I have three nephews that were home schooled and did exceptionally well. The oldest graduated from High School with some college course already completed and with multiple scholarship offers. The other two have not completed High School yet but seem to be headed in the same direction.

I have provided seminars for some local schools were some of the High School students could barely read above 4th grade level, and there was security present in all the hallways when classes were changed. I have been in schools were the students made the kids from "To Sir "With Love" look like angels.

Home schooling is not the problem or the solution. I think we all know where the problem really lies.

a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

Most are unaware of the reasons why Hitler banned homeschooling in 1938...

"I begin with the young." ~ Adolf Hitler

He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future. ~ Adolf Hitler

A common feature of authoritarian regimes is the criminalization of alternatives to government-controlled education. Dictators recognize the danger that free thought poses to their rule, and few things promote the thinking of “unapproved” thoughts like an education controlled by parents instead of the state. That is why the National Socialist (Nazi) government of Germany outlawed homeschooling in 1938.

Homeschooling: The Future of Liberty

originally posted by: Oaktree

I can tell you that I actually know roughly 15-18 kids who are or were homeschooled, and the vast majority if them are seemingly above average performers.

The home school failures are not publicized.

We only hear the "good stories".

Except in cases like the Turpin's - - - and most of those types are religious related.

I have three sons, none of them are alike. I believe that my youngest would have done much better in a home school environment, if the resources available now were then. But, I can't say that about all my kids, and the reason I say mention the available resources is that I would feel rather inadequate teaching them.
maybe it's more like where some would excel with homeschooling, others would do better with traditional schooling.... and well, I am sorry, but some parents just aren't up to the task, no matter how hard they try. I do think that there should be yearly visits to the home, where a qualified person gets to sit down with the kids for awhile and evaluate their educational level... they could also watch out for extreme abuse like what was just found in california.
I would like to see the public schools in the future offering their students the option of online courses, which would save quite a bit of money and would probably work out better for some students. but weather it be online course offered through the public school system or homeschooling, we do need a way to be better able to evaluate the kid's progress... what happened in california should never be allowed to happen.

Alaska has some of the most freedom based homeschool regs in the nation. We homeschool our children here and, honestly, our only regret is that we didn't go that route from the very beginning. America's public education system is a broken machine that serves as a total waste of America's two most valuable resources: kids and money.

My children went from struggling and hating school to thriving and enjoying learning. This is absolutely how parenting and education should work.

The social experiences my kids have enjoyed this year have actually been more numerous and much more enjoyed than anything they got at the public school. The whole experience has been beautiful.

a reply to: burdman30ott6


Here in Oregon we have our son take the CAT (California Achievement Test) to determine where he is in relation to everyone.

It validates our curriculum, and what he knows.

He's 14 and is already ranked well above his peers and in on track to graduate at 16 when he starts college.