Richest one percent made 82% of wealth created last year: Oxfam

a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

When people say they are fine, they don't understand many are not and are severely disadvantaged.

I can't answer for anybody but myself. I am tracking with your sentiment. I do see, everyday, folks not doing as well as I. I try to help when I can. Sometimes their circumstances are beyond their control, other times they have dug their own hole and the DO need to fix themselves.

It's still my choice to help when and where my conscience and my means lead me. I cannot justify expanding my opinion/conscience past that. I am open to discussion on the matter but it never gets past A has too much and B too little. A has to give to B. The advocate espousing this is neither A nor B but apparently sees themselves in a morally superior position to dictate to the rest of the planet.

A question: Let's say we took all the wealth in the world and divided it up equally among the 7+ billion people. Sent them all on their way with a clean reset. How long would this forced equity prevail? Honestly?

a reply to: seasonal

Wanting to be equitable in the distribution of wealth doesn't fall to one of the 7 deadly sins.

I am not sure where the sin thing came from. I am asking what do YOU call seeing ones self as fit to judge what is equitable for the 7+ billion people on the planet?

originally posted by: Necrobile

originally posted by: MteWamp
The problem with this tired argument is that it absolves people of personal responsibility.

It's not my fault, it's the wealthy that are to blame.
It's not my fault, it's the government that's to blame.
It's not my fault, it's ______ that's to blame.

No, maybe it's YOUR fault, and maybe if you would put down the Doritos, turn off the TV, drop the XBox controller, get up off your ass, and make some kind of effort, someday you just might begin to understand that.

Jesus Christ, it ain't rocket science folks....

Just because your neighbor drives a Porsche, does NOT, in ANY WAY, make it their fault that YOU don't drive one. And it DAMN sure don't make it their fault that you are just too stupid to even REALIZE that.

Y'know, it's this kind of logic that irks me to no end. Is this truly what you think about people when they get upset at such huge gaps such as this?? That they want to have all of the same things that rich people have?? Has it never dawned on you that maybe people just want to live comfortably??

I'm 38, but I've been working since I was 13. As time has gone on, I've seen the value of what I earn slowly get smaller and smaller. I always work hard at what I do, and I've always been working. I don't care if I'm rich, I'm not the same type of go-getter as some out there are, all I care about is living comfortably. To me, living comfortably means working a full-time job and being able to have the basics, with a few luxuries(such as a computer and internet), and not having to worry over whether or not I'll become homeless. That's all, and to be honest, I don't feel it's too much to ask for.

Unfortunately, that's not the world we're creating anymore. My wife lost her job last year, so it was just myself working full-time. We have no children, just ourselves and our two small dogs. Working full-time was giving us enough money to only slowly eat away at our savings. No doctor visits, no car repairs, just standard living, and we earned just enough to only chip away at our savings. Now, I'm actually making a decent amount above minimum wage, and we live in a town with a low cost of living, yet we were still hemorrhaging our savings. My full-time job doesn't even earn enough to at least break even. That doesn't bother you??

Thankfully my wife found work again so we can finally build our savings back up, but it's just sad that a full-time job nowadays doesn't even give enough to survive in our modern economy. Not everyone out there needs to be a huge success, and not everyone even wants to be one. Some people just want to live comfortably. That should not be an issue nowadays, yet it's been an issue throughout human civilization. Why is that?? Aaahh yes, human greed.

Not everyone is asking for the rich to not be rich. Not everyone is wanting all of the things the rich have for nothing. The rich also don't have to be so damn rich, though. They don't need to keep giving themselves raises and bonuses ever year. I mean, seriously, how much money do they really need?? Rather than giving themselves bonuses, would it be so bad to give their employees raises instead?? Help the people who got them there actually live that comfortable lifestyle??

People with money always seem to hate the concept of socialism, because they don't want their hard-earned money helping people who didn't work as hard. They're also the ones who are ok with things like this topic, and defend companies that don't want to pay their workers more while raising the prices on their products. The problem we're running in to, though, is that if people can't make enough money to even live, they're only setting them up to need to be on some sort of government assistance, or in other words, socialism. So by defending this sort of thing, you're only creating more people who will want socialism, but you hate socialism and don't want to share what little you have. It's like we're just setting everything up for failure. What a world we live in..... -_-

Truth hurts, Hoss!

I just don't believe that it's possible to accurately demonstrate that there is any other person in the entire world that has more control over MY life and/or livelihood than I do.

Oh, and on a side note, well, has anyone ever mentioned that you might have a tendency to overshare just a teeny bit?

originally posted by: MteWamp
The problem with this tired argument is that it absolves people of personal responsibility.

It's not my fault, it's the wealthy that are to blame.
It's not my fault, it's the government that's to blame.
It's not my fault, it's ______ that's to blame.

No, maybe it's YOUR fault, and maybe if you would put down the Doritos, turn off the TV, drop the XBox controller, get up off your ass, and make some kind of effort, someday you just might begin to understand that.

Jesus Christ, it ain't rocket science folks....

Just because your neighbor drives a Porsche, does NOT, in ANY WAY, make it their fault that YOU don't drive one. And it DAMN sure don't make it their fault that you are just too stupid to even REALIZE that.

Its everyones fault, but the elite, that the Economic Redistribution Model is vertical and points all the money upwards towards them. Then with that money they have all the governmental and legal apparatus int heir back pockets. From there they spend billions annual to socially engineer us to be a bunch of impulse shopping primal instinct morons, politically divided and at each others throats to distracted to do anything about anything. And because 80% of people fall for this con that everyone has been 'brainwashed' (indoctrinated) with since the cradle (for overlapping generations now running), its our fault not the robberbarron elites.

We CAN have economic redistribution, as long as it points upwards. And even when 1% reaps 82% of annual 'profits', nope we need to blame our selves and go bitch about poor people being too lazy.

Never mind the ultimate irony that compared to the 1%, everyone else below the 10%, is "poor".

Welcome to Venezuela!

It'll be Mad Max soon enough, so get your black football shoulder pads ready for barter town bebe.

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
a reply to: seasonal

Solutions?

How about they pay 82% of the taxes?

They get taxed twice as it is.

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
a reply to: seasonal

Solutions?

How about they pay 82% of the taxes?

They get taxed twice as it is.

That’s so tragic. My heart bleeds for them.

The way the economy is working will fail if it is not corrected. But we do not have the leadership with the nuts to change it. In fact it would take an Dwight D. Eisenhower.

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How does the bottom 20% get wealth if they typically do not work?

Most of the world's wealth is concentrated in a small percentage of the world's people? Well, that makes 6,843 years in a row!

originally posted by: Edumakated
Pretty much anyone in America is part of the global 1%.... I always find these posts comical because the people that post them never acknowledge this fact. If you are in a modern western civilized country, by default you are part of the 1%, no matter how poor you may be by American / western civilization standards.

Apples and Oranges.
A person making 38,000 a year is the same as a person making 5,000 a year in the third world country when you take into account the cost of living.

You can rent a 2 bedroom apartment in Ecuador for 68 dollars a month.
Try doing that here in the US.
Food is cheaper, gas is cheaper and transportation is cheaper.

It is also why there are many American Expats living abroad because the cost of living is cheaper.

If a person makes 38,000 a year and spends the majority of that money on food and housing here in the USA, then they are no better off than the same person doing it in a third world country that also has to spend on their money for the same thing.

a reply to: Xtrozero

They dont:


Note the bottom 40% are hardly even visual on the graph.

Thing is not all of those people with 'nothing' are lazy, uninspired, stupid, etc.

a reply to: Oldskool88

C'est la vie.

Here's yer cookie.

a reply to: eXia7

And a cookie for you......


Any other spoiled little brats with their hands out? Much as Marie said.... "Let them eat cake!"

a reply to: testingtesting

Too, too, TOOO damned funny.


Oh, almost forgot..... here's yer cookie.

As far as i'm concerned the overwhelming majority of the wealth the 1% enjoy in western society was not earned in any way. It was stolen. Stolen from the state, stolen from the people. The 1% live off the backs of the 99% while intentionally making their lives worse.

Each passing day they think of new and insidious ways to rob you of what little you have. Not only you but your country too.

The wealth should be taken back. But good luck doing that when every single government is totally paid out, controlled by and subservient to the 1% elites.

The Middle Class is the most destructive lie ever told and believed. There is no middle class. There is those who own the wealth, and you.

It was easier for a Victorian lowborn prole to advance in social "class" than it is for your average westerner in 2018.

They got that money from rigging the system in their favor, not from honest or moral means

They cheat, steal, and use and abuse people to makes that money, why shouldn't we be upset at them?

If we don't stop the wealthy somehow soon, we will all be slaves for the next 1000 years, isn't that reason to be upset?

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Thing is not all of those people with 'nothing' are lazy, uninspired, stupid, etc.

Did i say that...the bottom 20% makes less than 20k per year.

a reply to: Xtrozero

When 1% makes 82%, how much is supposed to be left over for the bottom 20%?

originally posted by: FHomerK
a reply to: eXia7

And a cookie for you......


Any other spoiled little brats with their hands out? Much as Marie said.... "Let them eat cake!"

Lmfao iv never had any hand out ya div get off ya high horse. Hope reality bites you hard. Remember this if you ever find yourself working all hours just to provide and survive! You consider yourself above others. YOU are part of the problem. The system is unfair and rigged FACT!!! Hope u and yours are never in need of a hand out. Small minded and self righteous is the character profile i sense from you. Feel free to attack me. I earn and work hard. And lucky that i dont particularly struggle. But I KNOW that could change, i dont live in no self righteous bubble! Where as you i can do nothing but "look upto you"

originally posted by: Ohanka
As far as i'm concerned the overwhelming majority of the wealth the 1% enjoy in western society was not earned in any way. It was stolen. Stolen from the state, stolen from the people. The 1% live off the backs of the 99% while intentionally making their lives worse.

Each passing day they think of new and insidious ways to rob you of what little you have. Not only you but your country too.

The wealth should be taken back. But good luck doing that when every single government is totally paid out, controlled by and subservient to the 1% elites.

The Middle Class is the most destructive lie ever told and believed. There is no middle class. There is those who own the wealth, and you.

It was easier for a Victorian lowborn prole to advance in social "class" than it is for your average westerner in 2018.

Exactly the thing is now most high priority human needs are controllled and distributed by the very few ultra wealthy elite. Do what they want when they want.

a reply to: Ohanka

As far as i'm concerned the overwhelming majority of the wealth the 1% enjoy in western society was not earned in any way. It was stolen. Stolen from the state, stolen from the people. The 1% live off the backs of the 99% while intentionally making their lives worse.

What a bunch of garbage. This comment is exhibit A of retardation.

So someone who creates a business, service, or is just really good at whatever it is they do and manages to make themselves immensely wealthy they "stole" the money?

So the lady who wrote Harry Potter, who is now a billionaire because of the popularity of her books, stole all that money?

The lady who created Spanx, who is also a billionaire, stole all that money? She just forced millions of women to go out and buy Spanx?

George Lucas force kids and adults for the past 40 years piss away money on Star Wars merchandise? His creation of industrial light and magic studios was stealing money by providing movie makers with better tech for special effects?

Dr. Dre stole all the money he made from making kids buy Beats headphones?

I can go on and on... I mean this in the most pleasant way possible, you are an idiot.