LAWYER and CONSERVATIVE Ben Shapiro: admits Trump can release the FISA WARRANT!

a reply to: DBCowboy


Ummm...jeez Beez...



YouSir

a reply to: Arnie123

I hate propaganda. People have a right to make informed decisions. Not to be lied to and propagandized by those in power.

This is just a classic example of a bait and switch.

Obviously the memo is a fraud meant to propagandize people , while the ACTUAL WARRANT answers the question conclusively .


It is just sad to watch people scream for the propaganda and not the truth.

a reply to: dashen

This is a lawyer saying it is perfectly legal and acceptable.. a conservative lawyer who hates the left as much as anyone.


Trump is wanting to push a lie.. if not he would release the actual warrant.

a reply to: underwerks


I do not agree..

I think there is absolutely potential for Trump to only release the memo and his lie stands.

a reply to: Oldtimer2

Watch the video..

The conservative says it himself..

a reply to: Hewhowaits

No one is panicking over anything Nunes ever said.. not since he already got caught pushing propaganda for trump earlier last year.

There is nothing that he released that would be considered credible to ANYONE not already a cult of trump member..

Nothing..

This is only meant to further propagandize trump supporters.

a reply to: Hewhowaits

WHAT?!?!

That is the silliest analogy ever..

a reply to: MteWamp

WHAT?!?!

how is releasing the actual document in question “asking them to leave”, but releasing a memo from one of your puppets is serious extermination?!?!

Lmao?!?!


On what planet is that a real analogy?!?!

How twisted do you have to be to feel that is a real analogy ?!?

As far as your run around screaming at the sky comment. Nothing fits that better than #releasethememo from a trump stooge that no one will consider credible.

a reply to: DBCowboy

That is just further proof trumps allegations are a lie..

He has the ability to prove them , but is just deciding not to..

That makes sense..

a reply to: Perfectenemy

No one can ever quote me saying I wanted information withheld..

Never ever ever..


This is a conservative lawyer saying that just releasing the warrant is the legal way..

a reply to: RadioRobert

Trumps claim is that the only evidence used to obtain the FISA was the Fusion GPS dossier..

That is an easy claim to prove as the evidence used to get the warrant is on the warrant..

Trump has access to all evidence against him like anyone else who is charged with a crime.

It is called disclosure.



Trump knows that wasn’t the only evidence used and knows the evidence is embarrassing. So he doesn’t want it released.

Instead he wants a secondhand memo from his buddy to be released..

a reply to: RadioRobert

Trumps claim is that the only evidence used to obtain the FISA was the Fusion GPS dossier..

That is an easy claim to prove as the evidence used to get the warrant is on the warrant..

Trump has access to all evidence against him like anyone else who is charged with a crime.

It is called disclosure.



Trump knows that wasn’t the only evidence used and knows the evidence is embarrassing. So he doesn’t want it released.

Instead he wants a secondhand memo from his buddy to be released..

Your thread is a complete joke.

I hate propaganda. People have a right to make informed decisions. Not to be lied to and propagandized by those in power.

Too funny!!

Propaganda:

Shapiro explains that if trumps allegations are true. It is perfectly legal and acceptable for Trump to prove it whenever he wants, not by releasing some memo from his known lacky Devin Nunes, but by releasing the FISA warrant itself. Which OBVIOUSLY sites what evidence was provided to to establish the warrant.

So since trump has the SMOKING GUN ( the warrant) , why is he only wanting people to see the EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY of the crackhead who claims he saw it all from across the street (Devin Nunes and his memo)???

I would highlight the BS, but the whole thing is crap. The "memo" is not a fabrication by Nunes and is being stated as, "absolutely" the smoking gun.

Rep. Norman: This was not written by Republicans. This is a memo that was uncovered along with other documents that were deemed classified. All we’re saying is let the Intelligence Committee vote on it and let the public see what the public needs to see. This will make Watergate look like child’s play…

Rep. Norman then goes on to tell Leland Vitter “absolutely” this is the smoking gun.

Trump should let nature take it's course and simply approve the memo's release when it passes under his nose to avoid suspicion. There's a State of the Union Address on 1/30 to make things interesting and a Super, Blue/Blood Moon total eclipse on 1/31 to lead us into chaos. I would drop the partisan act and hope this brings as many corrupt individuals in government down as possible.

a reply to: Hewhowaits

But how do you get those people to not allow themselves to be played by an orange baffoon is the question????

a reply to: DBCowboy

Ditto.. I have never understood why people freak out over bolder text..

The person is not actually yelling at you..

It’s a weird pet peeve for someone to have.

because no sitting president wants to unmask their predecessor since that will set them up to get hosed when they leave office.

The parties don't want to destroy a president either, it becomes a tit for tat battle that everyone loses.

a reply to: eisegesis

The memo cannot be more important than the primary source..


Period..

There is no situation where second hand info is better than a primary source..

When people have the primary source, but then send you a second hand memo. It is because they are trying to lie to you...


That is not hard math..

Do you want the actual warrant, or a memo written by a trump stooge about the warrant???


That is the most obvious attempt to propagandize people ever..

If someone doesn’t know the actual warrant is available. The memo makes sense.. it is all you can get.

But once you know the PRIMARY SOURCE is available, anyone still wanting the secondary source is trying to play you or themselves.

a reply to: Irishhaf

Yea.. trump who constantly goes on tv talking about wanting his predecessor and opponents locked up. Is worried about that..

That is why he is constantly on tv saying to “lock them up”..

a reply to: JoshuaCox


I guess you''ve never read "The Art of War". Having information and knowing when to use to effectively is a very important practice in 80's business, and in the end Trump is a product of the 80's. Knowing how he thinks seems hard to people now days, but looking at "The Art of War" and "Book of the Five Spheres" are important into understanding what and why how he's doing things the way he does.

By forcing others into releasing these memos, we (the public) are seeing which side politicians are standing. Are they with the people, or are they with the interests of private parties (ie the Deep State). By not releasing these memos, we have learned that regardless of what's in them, the Democrats (and a few Republicans) seem very interested in not releasing them. Why? What else will be reveled by delaying the documents, while going through the proper channels to release them?

They know they will be reveled to the public, they know that the public will look at the information in them suspiciously, so will they cover their tracks in haste or will they throw others under the bus in order to distract from their own deeds?

In "The Art of War" the proverb "tempt the enemy with some bait that they can not refuse, if he rushes forth to grab at it, he is courting disaster". These memo's are a bait that many are grabbing at to prevent others from seeing it. While doing this those same politicians are exposing themselves to the public of their misdeeds. It's a very smart trap that by allowing these documents to be release slowly over a set period of time, Trump is forcing those that will be affected negatively by the memo's to act irrationally in an attempt to block the public from knowing what's in the memos. UFO disclosure, governmental shutdowns, bells of wars (ie the Hawaii event), what other issues might pop up in the next three weeks? It will be an interesting ride, that's for certain.