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originally posted by: lostbook
a reply to: 3daysgone
At first, TRUMP said that Mexico will pay for it. Now that doesn't look like it's happening.
Why don't the Dem's give President Trump the wall?
originally posted by: 3daysgone
a reply to: Byrd
If there is a reduction in border patrol agents that would mean that the wall is effective. Why not funding drones and training and the wall. That would be an even more effective border situation.
Give me examples of ones you think worked. We know that the Great Wall didn't work, nor did the Berlin Wall (I lived in Germany then and heard a lot more about escapes and so forth than you heard about. I also visited East Berlin when I was a child and when the wall was still up.)
The one around the white house works. The one's that the elite hide behind seem to be pretty effective. And that is a good reason not to lower the number of border patrol. So no job loss at all.
It can be torn down, circumvented (we can't build a wall around the entire US), flown over, tunneled under... and stealthed through.
With all the drone you were talking about the tearing down of the wall would be caught before it began. The tunneling might be a problem that needs to be addressed in more depth, but the stealthed through argument is something I don't understand the meaning off. Do you mean climbing over it? Or actually phasing through the wall?
Aren't we talking apples to oranges here? The wall isn't between a Muslim country and our country. It's between a Catholic Christian country which is not a known terrorist nation and ours.
No. We are talking about immigration which includes everyone who is not a citizen of this nation. Are you trying to say that a Christian country is less likely to have a terrorist attacker than a Muslim one?
originally posted by: bulwarkz
I do not believe you read or understand the art of the deal.
That book was all about recognizing your goals by finding what it is the other person wants. If it is not your product and services it is your job to seek out a way or means to exchange your services and acquire elsewhere what you need.
I like your reference to the prisoners game. It applies well to the upside down fiat debt driven economy and how it functions, in its upside down trajectory.
In a real economy it would be win-win and John Nash would have found a different analogy. But we are debt slaves and prisoners we are. And Nash most assuredly recognized that fact. That is important to recognize.
But but, but...there is so much more at work here. We simply have no idea at all how much Trump has allready clawed back from his December 21st National Emergency and Executive Order. Think $Trillions. And then consider the chess moves you are seeing.