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originally posted by: Justso
a reply to: Edumakated
Marriage "should" be a partnership. There we agree. There it ends.
In history, women were chattel; or, like in India and around the world, women are traded for money, goods or services.
They had no choice in their future. Do you watch "Game of Thrones?"
Biologically and economically women need the protection and support of men to safely raise their children. Even with modern times and women in the workforce, women are not nearly as compensated equally. In divorce, women and children still need economic and emotional support-some would say more than men because when he leaves he doesn't usually take the children or continue to provide a stable homelife.
You are also forgetting divorce and child support are very hard on women; who are usually the ones who must struggle to make money and raise the children alone-that is the most likely scenario.
Inequity? Sometimes.
This guy just doesn't want any responsibilities to others-at all. What a guy. He's not alone. Alot of deadbeat dads he can befriend since he really doesn't want to be too tied down with a woman.
originally posted by: MerkabaMeditation
a reply to: Plotus
The only thing we've learned four pages later is:
1. Marry or you'll become alone for life: Emotional slavery, abandonment anxiety is a reason for people to become enslaved in a relationship.
2. People who don't marry either don't just get it, or are stupid, or are just not as educated as married people are (to quote yourself -"Your education on the subject may be a work in progress ad infinitum..") ; societal pressure to get married, you may loose friendship with your peers who "all" are getting married/children - societal slavery
3. People marry for financial reasons, like health ensurance, being able to buy nice food and cars, stable income even though one looses job etc (safety of companionship); financial slavery
4. People marry for emotional blackmail reasons like "want children, then marry me first", or "you want sex, marry me"; relationship slavery
5. People marry for an easy and steady access of safe sex; physical slavery
6. People who don't marry are selfish (to quote yourself -"What your struggling to describe is something else, a selfish or self life..") ; again, societal pressure to get married, you may loose friendship with your peers who "all" are getting married/children - societal slavery
7. Marry for religious reasons; god will punish if not - religious slavery
8. Then you have the lovey dovey anecdotes of people being married for X decades and being so happy, but talking about compromises. Your wife don't like something, tune it down / change your personality.
-MM
originally posted by: Plotus
Ok, I didn't write any of those, others did
originally posted by: Plotus
Frankly you have wasted enough of my time, actually I did it willingly, as a hope in bringing some measure of dialogue of a positive nature. I am through. No insults, no arguments, Bu Bye....
originally posted by: Justso
a reply to: rickymouse
You don't have much esteem for yourself; that's sad. Thought you sounded happily married. Bitter? Yeah, you sound bitter.
Am I the only one that feels this way?
I just don't want to get married. Why? Because I intuitively never liked the idea of anyone sort of "owning" me through marriage and telling me what to do - I want to be a free man.
I'm interested in opinions but not answers. There are no answers, only opinions.
Do people really choose?
What I'm saying is that the societal pressure to get married may be a greater influence than many realize or want to admit.
To me, marriage is more like a cancerous growth.