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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Willtell
Schumer gave him his wall. He still said no. This is the TRUMP SHUTDOWN!
The responsibility rests with the leader. It always does. He can't do this job.
originally posted by: Vector99
originally posted by: carewemust
originally posted by: Vector99
originally posted by: Pyle
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
Why would DACA cost as much as CHIP?
Er what does it even cost?
Didnt CHIP expire months ago and the GOP have been kicking that can down the road and are now blaming the DEMs for their failure to take care of it before?
You mean like DACA?
CHIP still had funding, until an hour ago.
Democrats want babies to die.
IDIOT CNN let their countdown clock hit 00:00:00 and then begin counting up. It's now been 1hr-3minutes-51seconds since the government shut down.
I honestly can't believe how stupid people are being about this, RINO's included. Everyone saying this is the (R) fault because they have the majority are all clueless. (D) decided to take a stand and value illegal immigrants over American citizens. Even if (R) secured 51 votes for passage, the (D) would have filibustered, putting (R) in an awkward position to use (D) tactics to override the filibuster, but also come out looking bad from it.
It's fawking childish bullshat, these are elected leaders and quite frankly as a person that contributes to their salary, I'm sick of looking at it all and thinking that grandpa and grandma are acting out worse than the damn grand kids. And grandma and grandpa represent our country to the world. THAT is what is embarrassing.
Clair Mccaskill just requested the military continue being paid and benefits for soldiers continue and Mitch McConnell said nope. Talk to me tomorrow.
originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: pheonix358
Not only that, there happen to be a very large amount of enlisted military personnel who happen to have ceased having an income.
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
Um, so this isnt even about the national debt ceiling which is the usual obligatory "government shutdown" posturing circle jerk?
Active-duty troops, as well as Guard and Reserve members, would not get paid during a shutdown unless Congress passes a separate piece of legislation to do so. That means if a shutdown starts Jan. 19 and stretches into the next several weeks, troops' Feb. 1 pay will be delayed.
Newly bereaved family members would not receive the Pentagon's $100,000 death gratuity during a shutdown or military-funded travel to Dover Air Force Base, Delaware, or elsewhere for the dignified transfer or military funeral or memorial. Servicemembers Group Life Insurance (SGLI) payments, however, would not be affected.
He was wrong like he so often is.
originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: Greven
There were a few (R) that knew they couldn't secure a 3/5 vote to avoid a filibuster so they pandered to their base by opposing. All it would have taken is one (D) to filibuster, and I promise you one would have. Then (R) would be faced with using the (D) playbook of 'nuclear option' while setting dangerous precedent.
Like I said, not a single (D) opposed this bill, they just wanted more so instead they said a big FU to American citizens.
originally posted by: Pyle
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
Why would DACA cost as much as CHIP?
Er what does it even cost?
Didnt CHIP expire months ago and the GOP have been kicking that can down the road and are now blaming the DEMs for their failure to take care of it before?