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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Greven
There are different thresholds for different types of legislation. Some only take simple majority. Some can be filibustered. Some take 2/3 at various stages (60 votes).
Trump never wanted DACA legislation in the funding bill in the first place. Then, when he agreed to consider it, he upped the ante by demanding immigration enforcement money - including funding for the wall - to be included with any DACA amendments. When Democrats balked, he refused to negotiate further, leaving Democrats high and dry.
In the end, it appears that Trump will get a funding bill minus DACA, and probably a separate bill that includes wall funding as well as other immigration enforcement measures in exchange for legalizing DREAMers. This is what the president wanted in the first place.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Greven
A continuing resolution is an abdication of responsibility. An actual budget should be passed because there hasn't been one since Obama took office.
All a CR does is continue under Obama levels of spending with no changes. If they want changes in those spending levels, and with the tax reform those changes NEED to be made, then they need a real budget.
So the Democrats hold the process hostage with DACA for the reasons I already explained up thread. Wrong and wrong again.
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: Greven
Exactly....if they didnt put it to vote then they can blame a filibuster
originally posted by: Greven
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Greven
A continuing resolution is an abdication of responsibility. An actual budget should be passed because there hasn't been one since Obama took office.
All a CR does is continue under Obama levels of spending with no changes. If they want changes in those spending levels, and with the tax reform those changes NEED to be made, then they need a real budget.
So the Democrats hold the process hostage with DACA for the reasons I already explained up thread. Wrong and wrong again.
Republicans have had control of both the House and the Senate since 2014. It's been 4 years.
The fact that Republicans are so incapable of governing and yet people are still blaming the other party is astounding.
Blame them already, or keep denying reality.
originally posted by: carewemust
Democrats got the government shutdown that they wanted. 3 days later they agreed to open the government again without receiving any concessions from Republicans.
Why the sudden change of heart?
originally posted by: carewemust
Democrats got the government shutdown that they wanted. 3 days later they agreed to open the government again without receiving any concessions from Republicans.
Why the sudden change of heart?
originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan
I was just listening to Senator Kamala Harris being interviewed on CNN. Most Democrats are miffed by how Chuck Schumer changed his tone so suddenly over the weekend. She would not say the exact words, but they are very disappointed in his leadership right now.
I think president Trump told Chuck Schumer something that totally melted him down. When he left the White House on Friday Schumer was pale, and at a loss for words. That is very unusual for him.
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
originally posted by: carewemust
Democrats got the government shutdown that they wanted. 3 days later they agreed to open the government again without receiving any concessions from Republicans.
Why the sudden change of heart?
A. They saw that they had terrible optics on the whole farce. Some mud on the GOP, just as much on them.
B. They wanted to throw off a weekend news drop that didn't happen
These are the 2 reasons I've considered thus far.