The Great Lie is Coming - God Help Us All

originally posted by: angeldoll
Does anybody have any ideas of why Nunes will bend over backwards to protect Trump from the Mueller investigation?

He was on the Trump transition team. He's in it for self-preservation.

if it`s so easy to pass off fake memos as real why don`t they do it more often?

originally posted by: CynConcepts

a reply to: AboveBoard

If it all lies, then why have none of the Democrats been screaming from the rooftops and to the MSM? Why have they been so quiet? They are never quiet!

I will wait until the actual memo is released before I attempt to guess what it actually says. I certainly am not going to just scream at the sky, 'It's lies, Lies, LIES!!!!'

That would be the epitome of DENIAL.

Because no one takes it seriously.

It is for Fox consumption, not for serious use. It is to give Fox something to talk about, a giant excuse that somehow means that all the Russian agents in the campaign, all the Trump business with Russia that people can see with their own eyes, their own damn words on emails, their own damn president firing investigators, all of it is just a dem plot.

And they know the Fox/Trumps will fall for it because they fall for everything, for the last 20 years, since Cheney and Iraq, no fact means a thing to them until it has been washed by Fox and Hannity.

Paying off porn stars to keep their mouths shut is the pattern, it doesn't bear upon anything. If Trump wants some disease-ridden piece of ass (his words) when his wife is at home with their infant child, that's his private business. It's the use of LLCs to attempt to anonymously pay people off for silence that is a pattern that goes much higher.

Nothing will touch him among the 35% of you who will consume this "report." They will treat it as gospel, just like the faith in Benghazi. They don't need facts, they just need a chew toy, so that the Fox/Trumps are not listening, so they have a counter-argument to the devastating stuff that's coming. Luckily, a vast majority of Americans aren't fooled.

They're not quiet. They are "quiet" on Fox News because Fox doesn't play the highlights of them discussing the very real evidence out there against Trump. That's not for consumption, their leaders need them sanitized from that. They don't trust them to hear everything and make a judgment.

What's that smell? Ah i know it's desperation. The MSM is not even attempting to discredit the memo or its contents. They just went silent and pretending it doesn't exist. Yeah nothing to worry about.

a reply to: AboveBoard

If you want a real conspiracy to consider, consider this they have concocted this story as a political weapon in order to avoid dealing with the fact Obama's administration was worse than Bush's administration which was worse than Clinton's administration. No one has gone to jail for breaking laws for decades.

Want a real conspiracy, by law the federal reserve is authorized to only purchase government securities, i.e. treasury bonds and yet they own over $2 trillion in fraudulent MBS created by our commercial banking system which has destroyed legal title to over 60 million homes through MERS.

It's ordo ab chao and it ends in the dissolution of the republic. Somewhere along the way the wheels are coming off the bus, best hope you get off at the stop before that happens. Meaning, prepare yourself and your family because it's going to be ugly.

originally posted by: bluechevytree

originally posted by: AboveBoard

originally posted by: Perfectenemy
Dem's are all blocking the release of the memo because it is a lie. Wow the mental gymnastics are of the charts.

Huh. And if that is the truth, wouldn't they be justified?

no, actually they would be guilty of being accomplices in covering up a crime, I`m pretty making forged government documents is a crime.
This would be a great chance for them to expose the fake document and make the republicans look bad for trying to pass it off as real.

If they can do that then I hope that is how this plays out. I'm hoping that Meuller and others are way ahead of them - they had to know something like this would be attempted, especially after Nunes already tried it once to no avail.

originally posted by: Perfectenemy
What's that smell? Ah i know it's desperation. The MSM is not even attempting to discredit the memo or its contents. They just went silent and pretending it doesn't exist. Yeah nothing to worry about.

Or they haven't seen it? It's all right wing tea party politicians and hearsay at this point. A dramatic build up to focus attention prior to release, kind of like we're in some weird reality TV show or something....

a reply to: AboveBoard


The memo was not written solely by Nunes or by Republicans. The House Intelligence Committee is bipartisan. If the memo is a total fabrication then the Democrats on the committee should be able to denounce it and prove it is fabricated. They have remained silent from what I can see. That is telling to me.

originally posted by: AboveBoard
a reply to: AboveBoard

Don't say I didn't warn you.

And you know this because of your intuition? Sorry, not good enough. You have provided NOTHING useful at all.

Well, we'll want evidence, AB. Most of us want the truth.

If the charges are true there will be documentation of it. So let's see, eh?

originally posted by: bluechevytree
if it`s so easy to pass off fake memos as real why don`t they do it more often?

Ultimately it won't pass the truth test but it just won't matter. He's laying ground work to fire Meuller. That's the strategy here. If he can use this to accomplish that he will.

originally posted by: AboveBoard

originally posted by: Perfectenemy
What's that smell? Ah i know it's desperation. The MSM is not even attempting to discredit the memo or its contents. They just went silent and pretending it doesn't exist. Yeah nothing to worry about.

Or they haven't seen it? It's all right wing tea party politicians and hearsay at this point. A dramatic build up to focus attention prior to release, kind of like we're in some weird reality TV show or something....

Yeah all the outrage is fake. You should really take a look at all the Rep's who tweeted it was the worst thing they ever read. They all state the same and demand the release to the public immediately. The reality TV show was called the Obama presidency. Wow are you in for a surprise.

originally posted by: Perfectenemy
What's that smell? Ah i know it's desperation. The MSM is not even attempting to discredit the memo or its contents. They just went silent and pretending it doesn't exist. Yeah nothing to worry about.

It's not serious.

And please, from now on, when speaking of the "MSM" - please call it what it is: "News outlets that aren't Breitbart or Fox" because that is what you're discussing.

If it were serious, it would be reported. God knows we heard plenty about emails and Comey's letter in the MSM and those turned out as nothing.

This is way below that. Nunes is supposedly "conflicted out" of the whole matter, yet has snuck back in after being caught running the last "report" back and forth. Do you even know what he did to get himself to declare his conflict on it?

But, he's back. He has way too much to lose to not attempt to manipulate this.

We'd definitely hear about it if there was something real in it.

This is the first I've heard any of this.

Want to know what else? It's highly ironic that this "report" is now "ready" after Bannon said what he said, got told to be silent in front of the committee, subpeoned by Mueller, and will pave the way to indict Kushner.

Yes, ironic that the report is just now "ready" - it's a chew toy in the works for a long time, for the 30 somethings. Scream Hillary and Obama loudly enough and they orgasm and ovulate.

originally posted by: The GUT
Welll, we'll want evidence, AB. Most of us want the truth.

If the charges are true there will be documentation of it. So let's see, eh?

There's plenty of evidence that Trump is up to his hairline in crime and money
Laundering. Does that matter, my friend? If Trump
Does it is it even seen as a crime? Is he immune?

It feels that way. My God, it's all right there in our faces.

I put this here because sometimes my dreams come true and I saw Trumps true colors in
My dreams long before he was nominated. I don't often like to predict things based on my intuitive take, but this seems obvious.


Know what? I really hope
I'm wrong.

I think the American people should be allowed to see the memo for themselves.
That way...we can decide for ourselves whether it's fake or it's not.

Having the Democrats deciding we shouldn't be allowed to see it for our own good...sounds dictatorial and authoritarian to me.

THEY work for US, after all.

originally posted by: Perfectenemy

originally posted by: AboveBoard

originally posted by: Perfectenemy
What's that smell? Ah i know it's desperation. The MSM is not even attempting to discredit the memo or its contents. They just went silent and pretending it doesn't exist. Yeah nothing to worry about.

Or they haven't seen it? It's all right wing tea party politicians and hearsay at this point. A dramatic build up to focus attention prior to release, kind of like we're in some weird reality TV show or something....

Yeah all the outrage is fake. You should really take a look at all the Rep's who tweeted it was the worst thing they ever read. They all state the same and demand the release to the public immediately. The reality TV show was called the Obama presidency. Wow are you in for a surprise.

I'm sure it IS the worst thing they've ever read or seen.

And it's a Lie.

That's my prediction. Thus this forum.

a reply to: IAMTAT

I get where you are coming from. But do we have the investigative tools to do that?? Really???

originally posted by: AboveBoard

originally posted by: Perfectenemy

originally posted by: AboveBoard

originally posted by: Perfectenemy
What's that smell? Ah i know it's desperation. The MSM is not even attempting to discredit the memo or its contents. They just went silent and pretending it doesn't exist. Yeah nothing to worry about.

Or they haven't seen it? It's all right wing tea party politicians and hearsay at this point. A dramatic build up to focus attention prior to release, kind of like we're in some weird reality TV show or something....

Yeah all the outrage is fake. You should really take a look at all the Rep's who tweeted it was the worst thing they ever read. They all state the same and demand the release to the public immediately. The reality TV show was called the Obama presidency. Wow are you in for a surprise.

I'm sure it IS the worst thing they've ever read or seen.

And it's a Lie.

That's my prediction. Thus this forum.

You base that on what? Feelings? Intuition? Obama is dirty. I know it's hard to accept but that's the truth. He and his administration played the american people for fools for 8 years. Enjoy the show.

originally posted by: AboveBoard
a reply to: IAMTAT

I get where you are coming from. But do we have the investigative tools to do that?? Really???

Not according to Democrats in congress...But isn't it really 'We The People's right to decide what We are capable of?

a reply to: AboveBoard

I love ya' Sis, but I think it's more likely your worldview is being shaken at subconscious level by the growing weight of the actual evidence pointing towards the FISA/DoJ colluding in the unspeakable abuse of our Constitution.

Your dream is the result of that turmoil resisting the building truth.

You have your gut feeling, I have mine. Hugs.