We Don't Want The Best People

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

You still fail to differentiate immigration and illegal immigration or "open border policies"... immigration is not the problem. Illegal immigration and the "open border policies" are the problem.

This is part of your problem,you either have a comprehension problem or you are pushing an agenda.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: mtnshredder
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

We do have immigration laws for many reasons. Do you not think they should be enforced?

We also have more vanishing natural resources than most people want to admit. At the rate we're going the quality of life for future generations looks bleak.

Of course immigration laws should be enforced, that's not why natural resources are getting slim though, it's a cop out to blame immigrants for blatant mismanagement, illegal immigrants are the current scape goat for government not doing their job and looking to shift blame, look no further than the current shutdown, remember the pricks that shut it down are still getting paid with your tax money.

A scape goat for the government,really? What about all the people that have lost their jobs or have had to close their businesses as result of illegals. To add insult to injury, the same people that have lost their jobs or had their wages shot to chit as a result of illegal immigration are paying for their education, medical, housing, food, etc.....they're costing taxpayers billions not to mention the means in which many of us support ourselves and our families. You're Ok with all that? If you are, than you're living in a bubble that's yet to be effected.

As far as resources, just wait till the 20 million or so illegals kids have a few kids and their kids have a few kids and so on and so on......America will also become a $hit hole in the not so distant future. Cali is already having issues with water resources and has so for many years. Yep, we need more people here for sure. Come one, come all, hell, bring grandma and your cousins too, free chit for everyone.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

You still fail to differentiate immigration and illegal immigration or "open border policies"... immigration is not the problem. Illegal immigration and the "open border policies" are the problem.

This is part of your problem,you either have a comprehension problem or you are pushing an agenda.

No the problem is you... I made the distinction between ILLEGAL immigration and LEGAL immigration but you want to bunch it all together simply as "immigration" and you claim that i am against immigration which is BS because there is a difference between the two...

You are the one who for some reason don't want to make the difference between legal and illegal immigration and that's because you are pushing this agenda that anyone who is "against illegal immigration is against all immigration" which is false...

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

OK then there's nothing left to do but agree to disagree.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

OK then there's nothing left to do but agree to disagree.

See? I have noticed that you are not the only one, and there are other people, including ATS members who for some "unexplained" reason are not able to admit that there is a difference between "legal immigration" and "illegal immigration". IMO, this has a lot to do with the view that "there are all sorts of shades of grey". But "illegal immigration is not the same as legal immigration"... Just because people are against "illegal immigration" it doesn't mean they are against "immigration"...

That's a false narrative made by people who are even unable to admit such differences. This also happens in other topics which i won't mention so the thread is not derailed, but it is the same attitude as what you are showing in here. You and many other people might not want to admit that there is a difference, but your denial is not going to make the "difference between legal and illegal" go away, and that's a fact you can take to the bank.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Take it as a win if that's what makes you happy, personally I find it painful arguing with people that are so polarised on A subject no matter what is said they can't see it from another perspective.