Fusion GPS Founder ADMITS Dossier Part of Personal Vendetta

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Scrubdog

Your source provides no sources, no timeline and no evidence. Contextual or regard for intention.

In other words, it's opinionated fluff.

Because it's all fake. Of course.

Everything against Trump is faked.

Your lament about sources is cute, as if you'd accept it if the source was some worshiped leader of the Alt-Right like Steve Bannon or something.

It's all fake, we're just making stuff up, all the media that isn't breitbart or Fox is just making stuff up in a huge conspiracy, kinda like Benghazi. Speaking of which, what happened in Africa? What has Trey Gowdy found in his investigation???

I forgot, scandals are only for democrats, info and evidence against Republicans is FAKE.

None of this is real. It's all Hillary's fault and Hillary is going to jail, blah blah blah.

As Senator Flake said, this is akin to what Stalin did to garner support, deny the media as reality, instill Fox as state tv, the only reliable source.

Sorry, Comrade, there's just too much evidence, Ivan. And all your shiny objects, all of them, have nothing to do with whether or not Trump is a russian agent.

a reply to: Scrubdog

Because it's all fake. Of course.

Everything against Trump is faked.

Your words, not mine.

In fact, you've done all the talking for me!

One thing of note, there is indeed evidence that has been shown to the public. It points directly at the DNC.

originally posted by: xuenchen

The entire matter was a desperate Democrat operation that backfired so bad, it will cost the integrity of Democrat politicians for many years.

No it won't. They had none to begin with. Fake tears and baseless accusations are their methods of operation. The ends justify the means. This is just business as usual.

Every time I see vindication like this, I say to myself "Arent you tired of being right all the time?"

It never gets old.

I find it interesting that an organization tracking the activity of Russian bot farms sees the #releasethememo trending hot among the bots.

It might make some pause and wonder why that is, but then again, probably not...

What the bots are doing...

a reply to: AboveBoard
Why waste bots on a platform only 21% of americans use?

www.pewinternet.org...

On a total population basis (accounting for Americans who do not use the internet at all), that means that 68% of all U.S. adults are Facebook users, while 28% use Instagram, 26% use Pinterest, 25% use LinkedIn and 21% use Twitter.

originally posted by: AboveBoard
I find it interesting that an organization tracking the activity of Russian bot farms sees the #releasethememo trending hot among the bots.

It might make some pause and wonder why that is, but then again, probably not...

What the bots are doing...

BwaaaHaHaHa

The Alliance for Securing Democracy

||!!* It's chock full of Left Wing biased factions *!!||

||!!* Very "Trustworthy" indeed *!!||


Another anti-Trump schlock outfit exposed

What about the Clinton ties to Russia? Russia also funded Internet ads or groups such as black lives matter, on the liberal side. What about Israeli manipulation of US politics, which probably has far more evidence than Muh Russia?

a reply to: Scrubdog

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: AboveBoard
I find it interesting that an organization tracking the activity of Russian bot farms sees the #releasethememo trending hot among the bots.

It might make some pause and wonder why that is, but then again, probably not...

What the bots are doing...

BwaaaHaHaHa

The Alliance for Securing Democracy

||!!* It's chock full of Left Wing biased factions *!!||

||!!* Very "Trustworthy" indeed *!!||


Another anti-Trump schlock outfit exposed

Unless it comes from Fox or Breitbart, it's not real.

We understand.

Snowflakes need their news sanitized for consumption, everything else is fake.

The New York Times endless articles on Hillary's emails were great, the moment they put news out that negatively impacts Trump, especially with respect to Russia, it becomes fake.

There is no article anywhere, ever, that reveals facts demonstrating anything against Trump which is considered "real" by the Right.

Denial. Fascism in its infancy.

originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
What about the Clinton ties to Russia? Russia also funded Internet ads or groups such as black lives matter, on the liberal side. What about Israeli manipulation of US politics, which probably has far more evidence than Muh Russia?

a reply to: Scrubdog

What about it?

Because Trump is president, we can rest safe in that DOJ and FBI are investigating Hillary (again). I have seen nothing showing Hillary colluded with anyone in Russia about anything. I haven't seen any evidence that Russians funded BLM - but BLM isn't a democratic movement, nor do I think it is anti-Republican, it's anti-police shooting unarmed black men in the street and I think it's been pretty effective since we're hearing less of it.

Regardless, what about it?

The "What about" is a logical fallacy as a counter argument and Fox has it down to a "T"

It simply doesn't mean that the man didn't illegally collude with Russians. The evidence will be out for all to see, evaluated thoroughly by professionals, and it will either stand or fall on its own.

Put the evidence aganst Hillary up, Trump has the DOJ and all the government under him, surely if the evidence is there, it will come out.

So, back to Trump now, having dealt with the "What about?"

So many Russian contacts within the campaign (Page, Papa, Manafort, Flynn, Sessions) and Trump has done so much to help Russia, the issue is right in our face, and the best answer many on the right can come up with is "What about?"

originally posted by: Templeton

originally posted by: xuenchen

The entire matter was a desperate Democrat operation that backfired so bad, it will cost the integrity of Democrat politicians for many years.

No it won't. They had none to begin with. Fake tears and baseless accusations are their methods of operation. The ends justify the means. This is just business as usual.

"Baseless"???

Bannon, who was the Alt-Right founder, says that the campaign acted "treasonously" there is evidence coming out everywhere, including Flynn, Page, Papa. Kushner is facing 20 years. Baseless.

Water off your backs, nothing touches Trump, no article anywhere is legitimate, no person's testimony true, as one "preacher" in Texas said "If Jesus Christ got off the cross and said collusion happened, I would say that I have to check with the president"- perfectly put.

Your hatred of Dems is all too clear. "Never had integrity to begin with." And that's why the right is fine with working for Putin, so long as they get to continue hating Dems, it's not a problem. If Putin is anti-Democrat, he's a better American than us.

a reply to: Scrubdog

Give me a break. You tell me Bannon is a POS then ask me to take his word in the same sentence. It must be frustrating that nothing touches Trump, and I'm not talking about opinions or fraudulent news articles. There is a reason for that. In the real world, where facts matter, it is indeed baseless.

Where was this porn star during the election? I would think she would have been in the dossier....I would have included it.

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: xuenchen

That's quite a hatchet job. How does his statement translate to "Fusion GPS Founder ADMITS Dossier Part of Personal Vendetta?"

It doesn't. First off, apparently the idiots at your source don't actually know the meanings of the words "personal" or "vendetta." Also, Glenn Simpson didn't compile the dossier.

And isn't that from the Senate Judiciary testimony?

Really? so him saying that he was opposed to Donald Trump becoming President, and the fact that his firm made up false claims about Trump does not show this was all part of a personal vendetta by people like Simpson?...

Why does he has to specifically say "personal vendetta" for it to be one?... That's a fallacious argument on your part...

Feelz B4 realz...

Trump fans be like, "I don't want it to be true, so it isn't!"

a reply to: Scrubdog

You can get me to seriously reconsider the conclusion that Trump is compromised by the Russians by pointing out one single position Trump's taken, one stand as president against the Russians, one thing that wasn't kissass flowery about Putin and the Russians.

Are you still taking offers?

I have what you're looking for.

Despite Russia's major objections/warnings, Trump sold lethal weapons to Ukraine. This is something not even Obama would do.

Despite Russia's threats/posturing/military presence, Trump lobbed 60+ cruise missiles at Russia's ally Syria. He has continued constant US presence in NATO states and in SK to deter NK.

He has also set up anti-ballistic missile system, against great opposition from Russia. Technically, this even violates several treaties we have with Russia. Trump doesn't/didn't care, and is expanding the system anyhow.

That is at least three things. I do have about 5 more, but those are the most important I believe.

Not looking for a "told you so" or jeering moment, either. I just ask that you sincerely re-consider your position on the issues my friend. May I ask what evidence you use to conclude Trump is guilty of any crimes? May I ask how you even know the Russians attacked the DNC? You are aware the DNC never turned over their servers to FBI/NSA/DISA? How about that DNC paid private company Crowdstrike to examine their servers after the breech, and is the only entity that has gotten a look at the actual servers/data? Everyone else, including federal government, has only seen Crowdstrike's analysis (a private, non-LE entity).

Assuming Crowdstrike is correct about the method of the attack (a "hack" instead of an insider leak), how can we be sure they aren't being mislead? Given the CIA's leaked hacking tools, we know it is in-fact trivial to falsely implicate a country/non-state actor in a cyber attack. So how do we know the NK's (or Chinese, or ISIL for that matter) didn't falsely implicate the Russians?

Of course I'm not saying the Russians are innocent, only that we've seen no real evidence showing otherwise.

But let's assume the Russians did everything they're accused of (which is far from a proven fact), this still has nothing to do with Trump. Nations interfere in each-other's elections all the time. It is actually standard intelligence practice, and we do it all the time (even to our allies). How does this implicate Trump?

Where is the evidence that President Trump broke some kind of a law? I have seen none. As far as I know, even Dem lawmakers admit they've seen nothing. So I really have to wonder where the accusations are coming from? And I truly hope it isn't soley this campaign document, because anything from either campaign is totally unreliable.

Thank you for your time/consideration.

JB