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FISA ‘Info Suggests Documents Catastrophically Bad For Dems’: Adam Schiff Leaks Dry Up

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posted on Jan, 20 2018 @ 11:50 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme


You can hate Trump all day long, I don't think many would care too much. The issue is peddling lies and opinion as if they were foregone concluded facts.

For instance, the way you phrase the Russian-hysteria theories as though Trump's guilt is already determined. When in fact, no evidence exists to suggest that - and what evidence we do have suggests extreme corruption, malfeasance and intentional steering of a standard counter-intelligence probe (as I've said all along) to a criminal matter. This is the first criminal investigation in history to investigate non-crimes though...ergo=witch hunt.

I forgot though. Silly won't answer those who make decent, reasoned and logical arguments. It would destroy their entire argument. Just have to stay on cue, and push the message (classic Clinton strategy, actually)
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posted on Jan, 20 2018 @ 11:53 AM
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a reply to: burgerbuddy


Not at all

They'll invent some other scandal so they can be "edgy and outraged"

At least those who pay attention can see their playbook very clearly. Documentation is king.

An idea for a new post is brewing......

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posted on Jan, 20 2018 @ 12:24 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: burntheships

originally posted by: Greven

Feinstein's release wasn't classified information as far as I know. The memo is alleged to be.

It's not that they don't want to release it, it's that they by law cannot until it is declassified.


I was waiting for someone to bite.

The Memo is classified because it is based in truth upon
classified Documents from the FBI and DOJ.

And yes, it can be released with few redactions.


This has been discussed in previous pages. There is no comparison to Feinstein.

Someone would be breaking federal law if they arbitrarily released it (other than perhaps the President). There is a process to follow to do any redaction or declassification.


Donald Trump, Jr. said on Tucker Carlson tonight that he "thinks" his Father CAN and WILL Release the document.


I think Trump has the winning hand, it's like he's holding a Royal Flush. The Dems raised the pot and they are about to loose it all haha. Hopefully when these idiots are exposed they will be made an example of, I'd like to see some form of capital punishment, preferably execution by firing squad.



posted on Jan, 20 2018 @ 12:51 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Greven

No matter how far we get away from 2016 the election will never be over until they can arrest the opposition.


And someone has been calling for the arrest of our President for just as long - sheesh



posted on Jan, 20 2018 @ 12:59 PM
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Rule #1 When possible, change or fabricate the information

Rule #2 When you can not change the information, change the narrative

Rule #3 When you can not change the narrative, discredit the source

Rule #4 If you can not discredit the source, attack the source

Rule #5 Never underestimate the value of a well timed distraction

Rule #6 Outright ignore damaging or loaded questions

Rule #7 When you can not ignore certain material, latch on to factual or procedural inaccuracies

General razors to live by

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity
Hanlon's razor

When faced with competing hypotheses, select the one that makes the fewest assumptions.
Occam's razor

What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
Hitchen's razor



posted on Jan, 20 2018 @ 01:01 PM
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originally posted by: underpass61

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Greven

No matter how far we get away from 2016 the election will never be over until they can arrest the opposition.


And someone has been calling for the arrest of our President for just as long - sheesh


Exactly, which some of us have been trying to point out for months via witty satire


The entire false narrative against Trump has been built on nothing but innuendo, rumor, corruption and flat out lies.

Brings to mind:



What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
Hitchen's razor


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posted on Jan, 20 2018 @ 02:38 PM
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originally posted by: Perfectenemy
Let me get this straight. The Dems are not looking at the memo because they were told it's BS and the Reps who read it are just sounding the alarm bells for nothing. Hmm looks like Matt Gaetz didn't get the memo. RepMattGaetz


Correct.. It is called plausible deniability and allows for Democrats to evade any and all questions about their illegal actions.


Democrats are never ever going to admit that their savior, Obama and their Satan, Clinton, broke the law in the manner they did in order to rig primaries while violating many other laws on campaign finance, election laws, criminal statutes, money laundering etc etc.. It will destroy the Democratic party (which hits already on the edge anyways so why not push it over and start over) and many Democrats who are in control refuse to give up their power and control.

They will go down with the ship until the very last moment where they will jump ship and start blaming anyone and everyone else except themselves and their party.
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posted on Jan, 20 2018 @ 02:42 PM
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originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: Xcathdra

So many thought it was great when Feinstein released
the Fusion GPS memo. Seems they quickly forget
their own logic.

Seems hypocritical to a large degree!



But not surprising.. Why do you think Democrats are desperate to destroy Nunes and equally desperate to change the news cycle. Democrats are placing all their eggs into the russia narrative and are intentionally shutting down the federal government to change the news cycle.

The last time the government shut down Democrats got away with blaming Republicans and they are counting on that strategy to work again now.

Democrats wont go along with releasing the memo because the info in it is true and accurate. If it is released Democrats wont be able to lie their way out of it so the only option left is to ignore it and start a fire somewhere else to distract people.



posted on Jan, 20 2018 @ 02:53 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra


Why do you think Democrats are desperate to destroy Nunes and equally desperate to change the news cycle. Democrats are placing all their eggs into the russia narrative and are intentionally shutting down the federal government to change the news cycle.

The last time the government shut down Democrats got away with blaming Republicans and they are counting on that strategy to work again now.


Which is so predicable on their part. How ironic that even in the
beginning when Obama was crafting his lies on DACA that he
full well knew and admitted the Dreamer Act was illegal.

Further, he even stood in the Rose Garden and
declared it was not amnesty, nor a path to citizenship.

For Democrats, as Hillary once said "it is all about the fight"

They truly don't give a care about American citizens, or illegals.
It is just a game to them.


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posted on Jan, 20 2018 @ 03:01 PM
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a reply to: dasman888

The latest email review of Weiners laptop shows 18 more classified emails between Huma and Clinton. Some of the info contained deals with Syria and one includes a CIA officers real name. The gist that I took from the report was the emails contained information that directly contradicts the denials made by Clinton about not knowing whats classified etc. IF that info is true and accurate then Clinton is done since it confirmed she lied to the FBI / DOJ (not that that was in doubt by anyone other than democrats). When you have an immunity agreement and you get caught omitting information, lying or committing a new crime the immunity granted is revoked.

With the number of investigations currently in play its only matter of time...



posted on Jan, 20 2018 @ 03:02 PM
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There appeared to be darker elements at work as well. Business Insider reported that the hashtag assigned to the memo debate has been fueled by Twitter accounts linked to Kremlin propaganda.

Wikileaks, the website run by Julian Assange that intelligence officials say was complicit in the Kremlin's 2016 interference campaign, has offered a $1 million reward for a leaked copy of the memo.




As he emerged from the House’s secure meeting room Friday, Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) declined to say whether he'd actually seen the document.

But when asked about the characterization by some rank-and-file Republicans that the memo's contents are “shocking,” Cornyn replied: “I think there’s a lot of paranoia around here when it comes to that topic.”





Republicans, Schiff said, are “doing their best to tear apart the FBI to protect the president and I think it’s a terrible disservice to the country.”

The documents that supposedly inform these talking points are highly classified," the lawmakers said in a joint statement. "And they will not be made public, making it impossible for the few Members who have seen the documents to explain the flaws and misstatements contained within the talking points without disclosing our most closely held intelligence sources and methods.

This is by design."

www.politico.com...



posted on Jan, 20 2018 @ 03:06 PM
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a reply to: burntheships

Democrats are so used to lying I dont think they can distinguish between truth anymore. It is like all the Democrats whop wanted a border wall and went on record stating it. Its like the Democrats who wanted to end chain migration and went on record stating it. It is like Democrats stating DACA is illegal and then defending it now.

The Democrats are their own worst enemy right now and at the rate Democrats are going we wont need to worry about Russia destroying the US as the Democrats are going to do it all by themselves because they cant accept reality.

Maintaining power and control and getting rich is all Democrats care about. Look at the Democratic leadership... They have people running the party who are out of touch, even with their own millennial base. Instead of letting younger leadership take over Pelosi goes on tv announcing she is a master legislator.

How do they think this is going to end.



posted on Jan, 20 2018 @ 03:10 PM
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Yup I saw the Democrats agreed on new talking points and distributed them with the same blame russia bs they have been using for a few years now.

The split among Republicans on the memo deals solely with protecting sources and methods.

Democrats on the other hand have not even read it so their opinion is based on ignorance and is of no concern. As for Dems on the intel committee the fact nothing leaked is evidence they are scared of the info it contains.

The Democrats have brought all of this down on themselves. Ironic Democrats call for transparency and then block it.

What do Democrats have to hide? (rhetorical question)
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posted on Jan, 20 2018 @ 03:14 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra


How do they think this is going to end.


A scary thought to imagine.

I have come to the conclusion their Demagogue leaders
want to usher in an American brand of communism.

They will not stop till they get there.



posted on Jan, 20 2018 @ 03:20 PM
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originally posted by: burntheships

originally posted by: Xcathdra


How do they think this is going to end.


A scary thought to imagine.

I have come to the conclusion their Demagogue leaders
want to usher in an American brand of communism.

They will not stop till they get there.


They wont get there.



posted on Jan, 20 2018 @ 03:27 PM
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I'll fight it till the day I die.



posted on Jan, 20 2018 @ 04:10 PM
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We are looking at the complete downfall of the Democratic party, as we currently know it. This is actually fun to watch, it's about time that these crooks finally pay for their complete disregard of the law.

I've had several conversations with extreme liberals. During each of them, I've asked them if they would do anything to get their agenda to go through, even if that meant violating the law. That agenda is in complete and opposite direction as our laws are currently written, especially in regards to immigration.

The unanimous answer? Not just YES, but he!! yes.

They appear to want everything for free. Socialism has never yet worked, but they will try and try to get this in place and try to change the entire structure of America.

And what concerns me the most, is once these folks start getting arrested, do they have some kind of catastrophic backup plan? Q has asked numerous times, "who really controls NK?" I'm happy to see the north and south talking to each other, maybe Kimmy Poo finally gets it. Launch, and your entire country will be burned down to the bedrock, and we will post signs warning everyone to stay clear, we will send in the Marines to paint the lines on the new parking lot once things cool down.

I honestly see the DOJ ending up charging MANY people here, for so many law violations that this will change how FISA warrants are issued, is going to change MANY internal safeguards, and the complete cleansing of the swamp.

I think I'll enjoy an adult beverage, make some popcorn, and watch all the squirming.

Excellent.

We are still the land of the free, and the home of the brave.

Fred..



posted on Jan, 20 2018 @ 04:42 PM
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Well Cornyn seems to be keeping his cool, sounds like he is skeptical of the memo. And the twitter bots are being used as a distraction, but that doesn't mean they aren't real and pushing the memo on twitter, so why shouldn't it be reported: "Just 'cause I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me", as the saying goes.

Republicans haven't leaked anything either, so by your logic they must be afraid of the info it contains. Do you see any possibility that the memo could contain only vague accusations that can't be verified because they are based on secret documents? And could Democrats be hesitating because they don't know how to counter that?This is how I'd expect them to react whether the memo was "the real deal" or not.

If Dems haven't visited the room then this tells me they feel confident they already know the nature of the memo, however it may be.

Some users here are already hoping to enjoy public executions, which sure sounds exciting, but I think we should wait at least until Trump or Nunes let's us see anything substantial.

a reply to: fredrodgers1960

Probably China has most control over them.



posted on Jan, 20 2018 @ 04:53 PM
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originally posted by: Cutepants
a reply to: Xcathdra

Well Cornyn seems to be keeping his cool, sounds like he is skeptical of the memo. And the twitter bots are being used as a distraction, but that doesn't mean they aren't real and pushing the memo on twitter, so why shouldn't it be reported: "Just 'cause I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me", as the saying goes.

Republicans haven't leaked anything either, so by your logic they must be afraid of the info it contains. Do you see any possibility that the memo could contain only vague accusations that can't be verified because they are based on secret documents? And could Democrats be hesitating because they don't know how to counter that?This is how I'd expect them to react whether the memo was "the real deal" or not.

If Dems haven't visited the room then this tells me they feel confident they already know the nature of the memo, however it may be.

Some users here are already hoping to enjoy public executions, which sure sounds exciting, but I think we should wait at least until Trump or Nunes let's us see anything substantial.

a reply to: fredrodgers1960

Probably China has most control over them.


Sorry, one actual quote. "Republicans haven't leaked anything either".

This is a classified document, and every single person knows that everything is now being very closely followed, they know they signed the agreements not to divulge the information in the doc, and you will note that most of the recent "charges" have been simply for lying to the FBI.

Everyone knows that they will be screwed if they leak.

Fred..



posted on Jan, 20 2018 @ 04:56 PM
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a reply to: Cutepants

sorry, one more reply.

"If Dems haven't visited the room then this tells me they feel confident they already know the nature of the memo, however it may be"

Dems have not visited because they want to be able to say in a court of law they had no knowledge of anything to do with anything in that document.

It's called plausible deniability.

Fred..



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