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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: TonyS
But if you are really worried, just carry your passport with you.
I agree, vee all need to carry our paperz for ven the Gestapo may ask us for zem.
originally posted by: badw0lf
isnt that how it is anyway?
at least being able to prove your identity if asked by a police officer?
That's sort of the key element in your little scenario. According to you, the police have found a person they have reasonable and articulable suspicion of committing a crime.
Stopping somebody to ask about their immigration status doesn't have that in the scenario AM laid out, which is "when they feel like asking."
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: TheRedneck
Dunno man....i shouldnt have to prove citizenship in my country. Its like making me provey innocence. Ita just not right
Except it is different when one person has a reasonable belief that one person has committed a crime but has nothing more than the power to stop another person and chooses to do so. How on earth you’re able to conflate those two situations in your mind is beyond perplexing.
originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan
You are the only one that kinda answered my question. As an employer you have means to sort through people that are applying for a job. I assume you go through the same thing for each employee and can weed out people that way based on what you are looking for. Good.
So now back to ICE. I guess what I am asking is there racial profiling going on, (it seems only Mexicans are being targeted) or are they going by something else? Are they just randomly asking people on the street because they are looking a little too tan that day, or are they only going by tips. How random is this stuff? Are they just doing stops and ask everyone for ID?
There are 56 million Hispanics in the United States, I understand that Hispanics also makeup a little over half of illegal immigrants. But how do you get one without trampling on the rights of the other???
originally posted by: TheRedneck
Would you still feel that way if you were the victim of a crime, and were told the police couldn't help you because they found the perpetrator, but he didn't feel like talking to the police?
That's the world you endorse.