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originally posted by: RickinVa
Poor Ante....
He has fallen into the pit of "I don't have to click a thread to know exactly what it is about" along with another poster.
The landing at the bottom might be a little bit rough.
originally posted by: underwerks
originally posted by: RickinVa
Poor Ante....
He has fallen into the pit of "I don't have to click a thread to know exactly what it is about" along with another poster.
The landing at the bottom might be a little bit rough.
LOL at everyone trying to shame the OP into not making threads critical of Trump.
originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: projectvxn
It's not about the calling countries #holes. That's never been the issue. It's the idea that people from these "#hole" countries, like you and your parents (and as Americans, some of us and many of our parents, grandparents, great-grandparents and so on), are somehow less desirable.
Do you feel that US immigration policy should exclude people like you and your parents because they come from a #hole country?
originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: Hazardous1408
So your assertion is that the US is the same level of sh-hole as Haiti?
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originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: StallionDuck
Sure, except this isn't about people wanting to live in Haiti, it's about people wanting to escape it, there is no mystery as to why more people from Haiti want to come to North America than people from..say Norway.
originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: projectvxn
It's not about the calling countries #holes. That's never been the issue. It's the idea that people from these "#hole" countries, like you and your parents (and as Americans, some of us and many of our parents, grandparents, great-grandparents and so on), are somehow less desirable.
Do you feel that US immigration policy should exclude people like you and your parents because they come from a #hole country?
Since the terrible tragedy in Haiti, many have sought information about the Haitian community in the United States. Below are some basic socio-demographic statistics:
The last Census Bureau data (2008) indicates there are 546,000 Haitian immigrants in the United States. That is up from 408,000 in 2000 and 218,000 in 1990.1
Of the 546,000 foreign-born Haitians in the United States, 48 percent are naturalized U.S. citizens; this compares to 43 percent for the overall foreign-born population.2
The top states of Haitian immigrant settlement are Florida (251,963; 46%), New York (135,836; 25%) New Jersey (43,316; 8%), Massachusetts (36,779; 7%), Georgia (13,287; 2%), and Maryland (11,266; 2%).3
Our best estimate is that there are 75,000 to 125,000 illegal Haitian immigrants in the country. In 2000, the INS estimated there were 76,000 illegal Haitian immigrants.4
When it extended Temporary Protected Status to Haitians, the Department of Homeland Security estimated 100,000 to 200,000 people could be eligible. While most are illegal immigrants, this estimate also includes those on temporary visas such as tourists, foreign students, and guest workers who will not have to go home.5
Between 2000 and 2008, 183,188 Haitians were given green cards (permanent residence). These figures do not include those who entered on a long-term, temporary basis such as guest workers and foreign students nor does it include short term visitors like tourists. Of those given permanent residence, 135,913 (74 percent) were admitted under family-based immigration.6
There are 310,000 U.S.-born Americans who have at least one parent born in Haiti.7
Of Haitian immigrants (ages 25 to 65) 22 percent have not graduated from high school and 18 percent have a college degree. This compares to 9 percent and 30 percent, respectively, for native-born Americans.8
The share of Haitian immigrants and their young children (under 18) living in poverty is 20 percent. For native-born Americans and their young children it is 11.6 percent.9
The share of Haitian immigrants and their young children who lack health insurance is 29.5 percent. For native-born Americans and their children it is 12.6 percent.10
Of households headed by Haitian immigrants 46 percent use at least one major welfare program. For households headed by native-born Americans it is 20 percent.11
The share of Haitian immigrants who own their own home is 49 percent. For native-born Americans it is 69 percent.12
The issue is that he feels that people from "#hole" countries are less desirable immigrants because they're from #holes.
Ignorant? You said its a s-hole, so I dont see how its a statement out of ignorance.
Exceptionalism. Maybe, but I have no problem with that in the sense I want a President that has American exceptionalism.
Now if you mean exceptional is saying Norway is better than Haiti, maybe. But again, its the truth.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: theantediluvian
Very often, a s-hole country got that way because of the culture of the people in no small part.
Here is a piece about Senegal and why it is the way it is. While the author found there to be many lovely aspects about the Senegalese people, she also admits that the culture had some very large problems that would make the average immigrant from Senegal difficult to integrate and keeps Senegal the more or less backward place it is.
In a merit based system, it isn't so much where you are from, but what you bring to the table. With limited resources, we cannot take everyone that wants to come to America. I see nothing wrong with saying we only want people with certain education levels, health, wealth, etc. If a doctor, educator, or someone from Haiti wants to immigrate then fine. However, we simply don't have the resources to deal with anyone who can make it to our shores.