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originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: AMPTAH
They usually need a business license if they are going to 1099 in blue collar work. For that, they need an ID. To get an ID you need a SSN....
originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: ElectricUniverse
It is a loophole because it is being used, making the application of the law inadequate.
originally posted by: AMPTAH
I called a contractor to come fix my refrigerator some time ago in Florida. He came and looked at the thing, fixed it, and I paid him cash. I never asked to see his SSN. Come to think of it, I didn't even ask for any ID. I assumed that since he had an entry in the yellow pages, he was in the business, and since he came because of my call, I assumed he was who he said he was, so I didn't do any due diligence to check whether he was an alien or citizen, or whatever.
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originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: ElectricUniverse
loop·hole
noun 1. an ambiguity or inadequacy in the law or a set of rules.
An ITIN does not:
• Authorize work in the U.S.
• Provide eligibility for Social Security benefits
• Qualify a dependent for Earned Income Tax Credit Purposes
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
Just because "you didn't check" doesn't mean that the self-contractor doesn't need a social security number.
originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: ElectricUniverse
That’s the dumbest thing people say on ATS. Suggesting a mental illness when you have never seen or met me. I can say you are a stalker. I didn’t suggest for you to Watch Gangs Of New York, I was speaking to another member.
originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: ElectricUniverse
Being wrong about what. Quote me where I said that it authorizes illegals to work.
I said they do not need to provide proof of authorization in a sanctuary city and, as Amptah pointed out, it also isn't needed if you are self employed and nobody bothers to ask you.
What do you think a loophole is?
originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: ElectricUniverse
Who knew Gangs of New York would trigger trolls.
Looks like the Feds (at least the IRS) are doing their part in the sanctuary movement.
They might not need them in sanctuary cities
originally posted by: Saiker
Being a part of a family whom recently immigrated here I take offense to the notion that illegals should not have to abide by the law because it's not "fair". The system is simplistic in applying all there in black in white. Anyone who comes to the US illegally is putting an effort toward not doing it legally. Applying for welfare, food stamps, and health care does not require evidence of citizenship. Just a social security number (anyone will do) and a proof of residence (utility bill) and if both of these are not available one can just sign a waiver saying it's not available.
You people who defend people who do this should have to pay extra taxes to take care of them. I for one think America does not not equal a free ride but equals a land of opportunity to excel. Anyone whom chooses to remain in the shadows and game he system has no real intentions to be a true American that excels.
originally posted by: Lagomorphe
How about looking towards the future instead of scraping the bottom out of the barrels past?
Warmest respects
Lags
a reply to: Southern Guardian
originally posted by: Southern Guardian
man who spent 30 years of his life in U.S. is deported
On Martin Luther King Jnr Day. Wife, kids, sobbing. A nation of s***holers we are.
originally posted by: daskakik
I never said they did. I said that they are not asked for them in sanctuary cities and that in that situation an ITIN is enough. The only fact that I offered is that they are given regardless of immigration status and that was straight as an arrow.
originally posted by: AMPTAH
originally posted by: Southern Guardian
Interesting piece of history from the Trump family:
What's really funny, is that Britain used to "deport" many of their criminal elements to the "colonies", like America and Australia, because they didn't want these "dregs" of society living within the civilized peoples in England, Scotland, and Wales.
So, early immigrants to America were often the same kind of people that America is now "deporting" back to other places.
Oh, well, the irony of it all is quite amusing.