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Military Quietly Prepares for a Last Resort: War With North Korea

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posted on Jan, 15 2018 @ 06:38 PM
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North Korea is very good at pushing to the brink, while advancing military capabilities, and then finding diplomatic ways to stall for more time to quietly develop military technologies, nuclear weapons, ballistic missiles, at least until they're ready to test them again.

Talks with the south and the Olympics are perfect!

Zero chance of military confrontation through that time at least.

Brilliant!





posted on Jan, 15 2018 @ 06:44 PM
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a reply to: ausername

Yeah, you gotta know these boys are itching to play with their toys though. Who owns million dollar toys but never plays with them?



posted on Jan, 15 2018 @ 06:51 PM
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a reply to: BotheLumberJack

Right now, a huge part of our airpower is in no shape to fight its way off the flightline, let alone a war thousands of miles away. The Marines and Navy have been robbing their second line units, to keep their deployed units going, to the point that only the best pilots in those units are getting even close to the flight time, they need, and they're not getting their minimums a lot of the time.

They actually pulled the B-1 out of combat a few years ago, because it needed so many upgrades, and its mission capable rate was below 50%. The Depot in more than one case is up to something like 6 years behind, because they haven't been able to pull aircraft back to send to the Depot. And that's ignoring the serious problems they're seeing with the OBOGS oxygen systems.



posted on Jan, 15 2018 @ 06:55 PM
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a reply to: Nickn3




posted on Jan, 15 2018 @ 06:56 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: BotheLumberJack

Right now, a huge part of our airpower is in no shape to fight its way off the flightline, let alone a war thousands of miles away. The Marines and Navy have been robbing their second line units, to keep their deployed units going, to the point that only the best pilots in those units are getting even close to the flight time, they need, and they're not getting their minimums a lot of the time.

They actually pulled the B-1 out of combat a few years ago, because it needed so many upgrades, and its mission capable rate was below 50%. The Depot in more than one case is up to something like 6 years behind, because they haven't been able to pull aircraft back to send to the Depot. And that's ignoring the serious problems they're seeing with the OBOGS oxygen systems.


I think that's why there's something to the things I'm hearing and seeing. Inventory counts and long hours. We're seeing exactly where we're at and what we're capable of doing so they can make plans that will work and that we can manage logistically.



posted on Jan, 15 2018 @ 06:58 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Do you figure that could change soon under Trump as apposed to the last 8 years under Obama?



posted on Jan, 15 2018 @ 07:00 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss



Between NK & Iran you want to bomb so bad that's thousands of splattered dead baby carcasses you'll get to see so up close you'll be able to taste them.


It's an extremely evil and heavy burden for an individual to take responsibility for giving the OK to extinguish thousands of innocent lives. All for the purpose of eliminating an opposing evil minority. The innocent will pay with their lives because of the evil government leaders who control this world. The leaders of the world should meet and feel the torment of their actions once they meet their maker.

The days left for the human race continues to count down. God help us all.



posted on Jan, 15 2018 @ 07:04 PM
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a reply to: BotheLumberJack

Soon, no. This isn't the kind of thing that gets fixed quickly. But I think it will get fixed, yes. The only way it gets fixed quickly is if we're willing to sit entire units for up to a year while their equipment goes through the Depot. But they're adding to the Depot locations and even using Depot locations for other aircraft to try to get it under control, so they're heading in the right direction.



posted on Jan, 15 2018 @ 07:07 PM
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Like Zaphod mentioned there is no quick fix, but I like the odds of things improving under Trump compared to the previous 8 years.

You can only rob peter to pay paul for so long then the repo man comes calling, in the case of the military that means the grim reaper.



posted on Jan, 15 2018 @ 07:12 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Yeah, unless they've got some ace up their sleeve we don't know about, a secret unit? I'm just throwing stuff out there.



posted on Jan, 15 2018 @ 07:14 PM
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The new Cold War has started (Cold War 2) Drones Cyber Warfare.Oh it’s gonna be fun will need a good budget.A few proxy wars to exercise the Special Forces.Thousands of troops on Estonian border.And the lively times on Korean Peninsula.Lets hope neither of those idiots from Korea or US(Kimmy or Chump) start out.



posted on Jan, 15 2018 @ 07:16 PM
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a reply to: Irishhaf

A good start would be the Billions we're saving by not sending $ towards the Global Warming farce to the EU



posted on Jan, 15 2018 @ 07:21 PM
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a reply to: BotheLumberJack

There's stuff in the black world we won't see, but it's on a really limited scale. It's really hard hiding even a small number of aircraft. There were something like 60 F-117s built, and there were rumors and even a couple of sightings before they officially came into the light in 89.



posted on Jan, 15 2018 @ 07:51 PM
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All that new equipment has to be tested and combat is the only place you will put it through it's paces.
We want the best equipment for the best trained force in the world.



posted on Jan, 15 2018 @ 07:57 PM
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Having read the article and having been in the military and looking at history the following can be stated:

Korea peninsula is a land that was divided into 2 separate countries, due to political differences, that created a war for control over the entire area. The north was backed by the Soviet Union and China, while the south was backed by the USA and other UN/Nato forces. The war that divided this country was quite cruel and harsh, families torn apart, and forced to fight each other. The war never ended, only halted by an armistice, a ceasing of hostilities. It was not done by an official peace treaty, and therein lays the main problem. Both countries are always in a state of war in one form or another.

If you look at history, of most countries, one of the things one will find are that the militaries tend to look at all sorts of scenarios, and draw up plans, and those being strategies, based off of intelligences at the time on attack possibilities, of different countries. This is nothing new, and what we should be more surprised is if there were no plans to attack North Korea. Most countries and militaries would have such plans sitting on a shelf, most of which is classified and it outlines the different ways to attack each country. So yes the USA has attack plans for say Russia or Iran, along with Great Britain or Italy. These plans are rough drafts and ideas, including ideas on the kinds of counter attack, and responses from different kinds of attacks that could be launched. It also looks at the military offensive of each country.

Now here is where North Korea is concerned. The first thing is that one would have to look at what countries are known allies of the country, in this case China and Russia, along with Iran are all allies of North Korea. And in particular the one wild card in this dance between North and South Korea is the country of China.

Here is the crux. It will boil down to who throws the proverbial first punch. If North Korea, throws the proverbial first punch, and there can be no shadow of a doubt about such, then China will not intervene, but will give warnings and guidelines on how far the US or any country may go. And it should be noted that the USA will do well to heed such and go no further than what China is stating. The last time, was during the Korean conflict, and what China stated was that the US was to go no further than the 38th parallel, the commanding general ignored the warning and then the Chinese came in on the side of the North Koreans.
China will also try to negotiate for peace, to end hostilities on both sides.

However, the other side of this coin is if the US does a first strike. If the USA does a first strike, it is going to go very badly for the US, as China will come in on the side of North Korea, giving then aid and supplies, including man power, along with Russia will supply North Korea as well. And this will not go well for the USA, as they would be fighting 2 large militaries at the same time, and having to deal with more of an aggressive Chinese naval and air force.

So as one can tell, China is the wild card, that has been working very hard and developing new weapons, and weapon systems. While we are not sure if any of it will work, but there is a far better way to find out, than engaging in a shooting war.


What most countries want in that area of the world is either a unified Korea, or where North and South Korea are working together and getting along like good neighbors.



posted on Jan, 15 2018 @ 08:05 PM
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a reply to: BotheLumberJack

It's believed that the F-35B will make its first combat deployment later this year. The USS Wasp just transferred from Norfolk to Japan to replace the USS Bonhomme Richard. She's scheduled to deploy this summer, or early fall with VMFA-121 on board. The deployment area hasn't been confirmed, but it's thought that it will include the Middle East. It's the first deployment for the F-35B on a ship.



posted on Jan, 15 2018 @ 09:16 PM
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posted on Jan, 15 2018 @ 09:22 PM
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Osan#Task_Force_Smith

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Jan, 15 2018 @ 09:23 PM
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originally posted by: FlyingFox
looks like a lot of weapons of mass destruction to me



posted on Jan, 15 2018 @ 09:25 PM
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originally posted by: hillbilly4rent
Sounds like normal training exercises to me. If it ain't raing we ain't training.

Right. No one remembers that during the Cold War there were think tanks operating 365 1/4 days a year . Planning for every single scenario they could possibly imagine.
There were constant training and evaluation scenarios in SAC on a constant basis .Only they were not told if it was a drill or real.
But , I guess to the ignorant this is something special and unique...

I concur with you




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