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originally posted by: continuousThunder
really loving how the lovable rascals of ats are literally leaping over each other to prove the OP right by deliberately and continuously misgendering and deadnaming her after it was pointed out right there in the OP that her transition is a sore point to many, don't ever change your predicatable scummy ways, ats
originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: Hazardous1408
I am not debating if the information needed to be out, a guy with a security clearance and subject to the ucmj (which historically takes a dim view on espionage) gave classified information to a foreigner clearly damaging the standing the United states.
Then Manning gets clemency, while others had to serve out there time for much less egregious offenses.
The young mann who took a picture of his bunk and workstation on a sub and sent it to his family so they could see where he works comes to mind. (working from memory)
Manning had several ways to address the information that he released and instead decided to make a big splash and get 15 mins of fame through wiki leaks.
Chain of command, IG, Congressional representative are all ways that could have been used, I do not believe for a second that manning actually pushed to do things the correct way and that is why I feel the full sentence should have been carried out.
clearly damaging the standing the United states.
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: continuousThunder
really loving how the lovable rascals of ats are literally leaping over each other to prove the OP right by deliberately and continuously misgendering and deadnaming her after it was pointed out right there in the OP that her transition is a sore point to many, don't ever change your predicatable scummy ways, ats
Careful now... you'll get labeled as "off topic" with that attitude.
originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: Southern Guardian
I hope and pray that Manning wins that primary.
Because I don't like to mislead:
It will be a grand slam for republicans if manning wins the primary. They'll literally be going against a mentally ill traitor to the country. If they lose that, it will be a bigger loss than clinton to trump. But they won't lose that race.
originally posted by: Sublimecraft
@Metallicus
IMO, whistleblowers are not traitors. In all good conscience I cannot side against exposing government corruption and in this instance also unacceptable battlefield conduct. Mannings docs also showed the US Administration to be 2-faced towards some of their closest allies as well. It was a very uncomfortable time for those countries involved.
Same goes for Snowden - he bought to our attention PRISM.
In both these instances, as in other whistleblower cases, the evidence exposed far outweighs any supposition that the exposer is traitorous for doing so imo.
originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: DerBeobachter
Except manning didn't just release evidence of criminal activity, he put his fellow (innocent) soldiers at risk in a war zone.